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Post by DonZ on Dec 30, 2013 0:13:19 GMT -5
krittersThe Fla Tex Cali concentration of MD is weird, Hmmm typically warmer environment for bacterial growth? but that is an internet assertion. Something I've found about these internet revelations is that they get cut and pasted a lot. So they tend to become gospel without much real evidence. If you go on MD support websites and look at the posters locations then I don't see that much of a concenration. MD sufferers are all over the place. Any Fungal/Mold issues will be taken care of by the full gamut of antifungals in the protocol. I had Black mold exposure and had it in my lungs and the synergistic herbs killed it. ~d
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Post by DonZ on Dec 30, 2013 20:04:37 GMT -5
This is something that has received some attention here;
Red Blood cells have no DNA this is correct. They would not exist however without the DNA your body uses in the long bones as a blueprint for their construction.
No cell in your body would exist without the information to build it and that information is DNA. When the DNA is altered then the resulting growth depends exactly on what is in the design genome.
Morgellons doesn't grow out of red blood cells so this isn't an issue. Morgellons grows out of crown gall tumor tissue that is genetically induced by transgenic DNA.
This does not mean that the red blood cells don't become infected by the vector pathogen that caries the transgenic DNA, they do. The RBC's a;so get infected by the other pathogens that form a symbiosis with the MD bacteria.
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Post by skyship on Dec 31, 2013 4:05:10 GMT -5
What if a system or matrix was put in the body for control purposes, for sensors, antennas, and work outside of the cells including blood cells but were able to signal them or tune them to do certain things? In the Extracellular spaces in the body, between bones, nerves, bone morrow and bone or outside the cells in the plasma, or the serum, or the along side the capillaries and vessels and organs. One person died because the filaments were strangling the pancreas, in fact squeezing it to death. They aggregated there. These filaments aggregate in our gut, on our skin in lumps which eventually form lesions and these various colored filaments are present. Not just one kind but many. So, when we say Morgellons has no DNA, that is correct in the sense that it is artificial, so could not have DNA, but can mimic the DNA code, and there have been 3 new amino acids added, one is totally un natural. So, cannot have DNA as we know it. But it has a code. A chemical code. computer code? translated. So, that computer code mimicking the DNA code could report on our entire DNA. It does not use the DNA it just records by way of 0s and 1s. Thereby the evolutionary machine controls the DNA code. You mention the design genome. In the genome project, this was put in computerized form. So, even though this code cannot change DNA, only can by mutation. But, if the synthetic is mutated in, then we are in deep doo doo. Hybridization can be done in the lab, but can it be done in vivo? If so the agro if still in the fruit of the plant that had it transgened in, if this is synthetic (not natural )then you are correct. this is an interesting topic. However, if blood cells were to be altered, in the sense of blood celll type, a bacteria would have to mutate into the blood cell formation. If the coat of the cells can be altered, can the type be removed and another inserted. This was attempted to make all blood types O. Antigens of A and B blood types were altered by bacteria mutations. Fragilis was used in one and Elizabethkingia: =========== In the 1980s, a team in New York, US, showed that an enzyme from green coffee beans could remove the B antigen from red blood cells. It proved too inefficient for practical use, but Henrik Clausen at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark and colleagues have now screened bacteria and fungi for more powerful enzymes. "The diversity you get in the bacterial kingdom is much higher," Clausen explains. The researchers homed in on two enzymes. One, from a gut bacterium called Bacteroides fragilis, removes the B antigen. The other, from Elizabethkingia meningosepticum - which causes opportunistic infections in people - targets the A antigen. The purified enzymes are highly efficient. For example, the B. fragilis enzyme is used up at only one-thousandth the rate of the coffee bean enzyme. Clausen's team is working with a company called ZymeQuest in Beverly, Massachusetts, US, which plans clinical trials to test whether the treated blood is safe and effective. If so, the technology should be in hot demand, because group O blood - the only safe option if there is any doubt about the recipient's blood group - is a precious commodity. "We're always in a shortage," says Richard Benjamin, chief medical officer with the American Red Cross in Washington DC, US. www.newscientist.com/article/dn11508-enzymes-convert-all-donor-blood-to-group-o.html#.UsKIg_u0a-q
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Post by DonZ on Dec 31, 2013 9:38:48 GMT -5
Morgellons is packed full of DNA. Just take some of the MD debris and get it PCR analyzed. The MD tumor debris is a variant of the crown gall tumor tissue that the causative pathogen creates. The gram negative bacteria that causes MD carries a very large plasmid and this contributes well to it's ability for Horizontal Gene Transfer. When it creates the crown gall tumor tissue inside us that the transgenic fiber growths emerge from then that gall tissue has a extremely high bacterial concentration of the MD bacteria and the DNA they carry. The presentation of Crown Gall in humans is different than the presentation in plants because the genes that form the galls are now using building block found in humans instead of the ones found in plants. It is doing the same thing though, the very same thing it does in plants. www.sactorose.org/ipm/83crowngall.htmThe CEHF is finally getting to something they should have already done but at least they are. That is to do advanced DNA testing on the MD pathogen and to determine and classify that exact pathogen. So hopefully by the middle of 2014 the MD community can dismiss many of these other theories. www.thecehf.org/donate-to-celebrate.html
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Post by DonZ on Dec 31, 2013 10:06:43 GMT -5
www.sactorose.org/ipm/83crowngall.htm"DISEASE CYCLE: The bacteria causing the disease are soil born and can survive in soils for many years. When roses are planted in infested soil any wound sites on the roots or crown offer points of entry for the bacteria. Once in the host the tumor inducing principle carried on a small circular portion of DNA is incorporated into the plant cell and a overgrowth begins to form. In some plants the bacteria can be systemic and galls may begin to form at many sites on the plant. As the galls develop callus tissue is laid down which is susceptible to other types of breakdown, decay or sloughing. In this way the soil around a plant can become infested with the bacteria." Does this sound familiar?; "In some plants the bacteria can be systemic and galls may begin to form at many sites on the plant." It is why the MD lesions don't heal, because under the skin there is a deposit of crown gall tumor tissue and it will never heal unless that is completely removed. The tumor tissue is tenacious but it can be defeated with the right tools.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 1, 2014 6:27:19 GMT -5
"Tumor-Causing Plant Bacteria May Infect Human Cells"
Reuters Health News - January 31, 2001 - Emma Patten
NEW YORK - A soil bacterium that causes lumpy tumors on plants may be able to 'jump kingdoms' and insert its tumor-causing DNA into human cells, new research findings suggest. The bacterium, called Agrobacterium tumefaciens, contains a small piece of DNA that can insert itself into the DNA of a host cell and initiate a tumor. Agrobacterium is already known to cause plant tumors, but researchers wanted to test whether the bacterium could similarly insert its DNA into human cells.
Dr. Vitaly Citovsky from the State University of New York, Stony Brook, and colleagues found that the plant bacterium was able to attach to human cells and insert its DNA into human cells just as it does with plant cells. Whether Agrobacterium is dangerous to humans is unclear, however. "Here (insertion of DNA into) human cells has been observed in laboratory conditions; whether it may be relevant biologically in nature remains unknown," the researchers note in the current early edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
"Our experiments were done under laboratory conditions," Citovsky told Reuters Health. "In nature, I do not believe Agrobacterium represents a danger. However, for people who work with large concentrations of this bacterium, for example researchers or certain agricultural workers who deal with heavily infected plants, it may be prudent to be careful or at least aware,'' he said.
One implication of this study, said Citovsky, is the potential for genetic flow between bacteria and animals. Another implication is that the basic biochemical and cellular reactions involved in the Agrobacterium-plant cell interaction probably exist in the animal kingdom as well.
"Presently, it appears that Agrobacterium is the only example of trans-kingdom DNA transfer," Citovsky said. "I do not rule out other possibilities but there are no data. Of course, what can be done once, can almost always be done again," he added.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 1, 2014 6:44:37 GMT -5
Dr . Mae-Wan Ho is a geneticist known for her critical views on genetic engineering and neo-Darwinism. Ho has authored or co-authored a number of publications, including 10 books, such as The Rainbow and the Worm, the Physics of Organisms, Genetic Engineering: Dream or Nightmare? , and Living with the Fluid Genome.She also founded the Institute for Science in society. Professor Joe Cummins Professor Emeritus of Genetics University of Western Ontario Education,PhD University of Western Ontario , Canada-BS , Horticulture Washington State University, PhD , Cellular Biology,University of Wisconsin-BS Horticulture Washington State University www.i-sis.org.uk/agrobacteriumAndMorgellons.php"Agrobacterium & Morgellons Disease, A GM Connection?"
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Post by DonZ on Jan 1, 2014 6:52:49 GMT -5
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Post by DonZ on Jan 1, 2014 7:12:02 GMT -5
Narrative; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NarrativeFalse narrative; dramaticapedia.com/2013/07/05/the-false-narrative/What I am saying here is that everyone has behavior issues from their childhood and that these become psychiatric issues when a brain becomes loaded up with neurotoxins produced by infections, for one reason is an infected brain loses it's "inner voice", the inner voice is reason and using reason to sort out what makes sense and doesn't make sense. Unfortunately and very sadly there are very many people in the Morgellons community who are well engaged in false narratives. This could be from psychiatric issues or it could be that they are trying to sell something and take advantage of sufferers. Either way it is a dramatic and grave disservice to the Morgellons community because it only gives fuel to those who would seek to discredit the reality of MD. Scientific Method; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method"The scientific method is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge." "The chief characteristic which distinguishes the scientific method from other methods of acquiring knowledge is that scientists seek to let reality speak for itself,[discuss] supporting a theory when a theory's predictions are confirmed and challenging a theory when its predictions prove false" Happy New Year to all ~d
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Post by skyship on Jan 1, 2014 13:33:10 GMT -5
Citovsky later says this does not alter human DNA. So, who to believe. We have covered this many times.
I would like to know why I show telechelic polymers in my skin. These are black, larger ones, and purple. blue and red mixture of the red and blue single filaments. These are programmed units. Galls yes, but what lives in them? termites, mites etc. We have studied this for some time.
However ecdysone with hormones or pheromones from insects could be involved. This is not just bacterial.
So, our theories are just as important as any other.
The scientific method has been turned on its head. The paradigms have changed when inorganic was added especially in the area of chemical formed and use of graphene which includes the nanoparticles, this is what can alter DNA and cells themselves. This is a cell free system, monitoring the DNA and cells within us.
You cannot use old tools to dissect the use of new tools. New genomic, robotic and nano tools.
This is about discovery of new elements used to control the human system.
I know the old, the new is what most cannot comprehend. This includes the synthetic put in plants. It is both environmental and humanistic on the evolutionary road to toward machination and immortality, plastic polymer is immortal as are systems put in humans to monitor all reactions to synthetic chemicals.
Monomers are what form these.
Since these cannot be related to organic at times, how can you determine DNA of Morgellons while avoided the chemical reaction and formation of nano telechelic polymers, that are not biological?
I have found these in my body for some time. These are not biological.
And they are not lymes disease as CEHF has said. This is not looking at the inorganic substances we find.
So, get off the psychiatric issue here. You are starting to sound like the derms, docts and psychiatrists who want to issue us psycho drugs, when this machination is the issue, this is new and foreign to the human organic native system.
Skyship
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Post by DonZ on Jan 1, 2014 14:03:24 GMT -5
Many researchers have lost their grants and positions at universities for exposing this government sanctioned incompetence. Citovsky is still at SUNY because he chose to save his job. It is not just Citovsky's information, there is a multitude of this stuff on the net by various credible authors so thoroughness would be an unbiased approach. It only takes a few minutes to find this stuff in all honesty. www.researchgate.net/publication/226209741_Agrobacterium-Mediated_Transformation_of_Non-Plant_Organisms"Agrobacterium-Mediated Transformation of Non-Plant Organisms Jalal Soltani, G. Paul H. van Heusden, Paul J. J. Hooykaas 01/2008; DOI:10.1007/978-0-387-72290-0_18 ABSTRACT During the last decade it became clear that the ability of Agrobacterium to transform host organisms is not restricted to plants, but that numerous other organisms are transformable by Agrobacterium under laboratory conditions. It has been shown that Agrobacterium-mediated transformation is possible for at least 80 different non-plant species. Most of these organisms are fungi including yeasts, but also mammalian cells and algae can be transformed. Agrobacterium-mediated transformation is not restricted to eukaryotes as Agrobacterium is also able to act on the gram positive bacterium Streptomyces lividans. In general, the procedures for the transformation of different organisms are similar, but each organism has its own conditions for optimal transformation efficiency. Nowadays Agrobacterium-mediated transformation is the method of choice for the transformation of various fungi as transformation efficiencies are much higher than with other methods and the transformation protocols are relatively facile. Agrobacterium can transfer not only DNA but also proteins to the host organisms through its type four secretion system. This protein transfer has been shown for both plants and the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae. A major issue in the transformation of eukaryotic cells is the integration of the foreign DNA at random positions in the genome rather than at specific locations. The ability of Agrobacterium to transform the yeast S. cerevisae offers the possibility to use the many experimental tools available for this organism to fully unravel the mechanisms involved in the Agrobacterium-mediated transformation process. This is especially relevant as in contrast to most other organisms S. cerevisiae has a very efficient system for targeted integration of DNA fragments via homologous recombination. Knowledge of this system has already led to an increased frequency of targeted integration in the yeast Kluyveromyes lactis, in the filamentous fungus Neurospora crassa and the plant Arabidopsis thaliana. The ability of Agrobacterium to transfer T-DNA to a wide variety of eukaryotic and some prokaryotic organisms may have important implications for evolution. Future research has to show whether Agrobacterium-mediated transformation contributed to horizontal gene transfer between microorganisms in the rhizosphere."
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Post by skyship on Jan 1, 2014 17:26:59 GMT -5
I am not biased. I have looked at this, only the secretome can impart into human. Those can in cells in the lab in studies.
but, there is no mention of these in humans. Fungi, algae, bacteria, but no mention of humans. So who is biased here?
Open your mind to the tech or you will never get there. This protocol you have will take care of some of the organic chemical monomers, if plant based, but these cannot mutate into human DNA. Only mutations can alter human DNA.
Synthetic dna can cause trisomies, 3 strands instead of 2 strand dna. And it is the "cruciform" that is being done here. The Cloverleaf Project both Chemtrails and DNA.
There are more parts to this puzzle. A puzzle that had a blueprint for function inside the human body. the inorganic in the ECM, extracellular matrix, can involve both inorganic and organic reactions and formations.
Self assembly of monomers, resin is natural isn't it? Terpene? Galls can form on bark. Why is that? Because of the resin, the adhesions. Makes a nice nest for bugs. Galls are on branches, roots etc, but are not on the fruit of the tree, or the plant. So, the chemical answer to that would be? the resin monomer. the living polymers.
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Post by skyship on Jan 1, 2014 19:05:32 GMT -5
secretome (sē'krĕt-ōm), The entirety of product types secreted by a cell, parasite, or other entity.
cell, parasite or OTHER ENTITY~!
So, this could be the tags, the sensors, the rfids on proteins, on RNA on DNA.
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Post by skyship on Jan 2, 2014 1:58:47 GMT -5
So much to read and understand, observe and record.
Skyship
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Post by DonZ on Jan 2, 2014 12:25:12 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by kritters on Jan 2, 2014 16:51:35 GMT -5
krittersThe Fla Tex Cali concentration of MD is weird, Hmmm typically warmer environment for bacterial growth? but that is an internet assertion. Something I've found about these internet revelations is that they get cut and pasted a lot. So they tend to become gospel without much real evidence. If you go on MD support websites and look at the posters locations then I don't see that much of a concenration. MD sufferers are all over the place. Any Fungal/Mold issues will be taken care of by the full gamut of antifungals in the protocol. I had Black mold exposure and had it in my lungs and the synergistic herbs killed it. ~d Hey Don, Cal Fla and Tex are the first recorded cases from way back. Obviously, they will spread. Not only for MD, but Lyme and Agro as well. I guess it doesn't matter at this point to anyone, but in my thinking, where it begins is a major clue as to WHY it began, and WHO or WHAT is behind it. I realize the basic assumption would be the fungal growth in warmer climates. However, there are even warmer climates elsewhere in the US. I'm guessing something to do with the water SYSTEM possibly, or where most of the LABS are. What are drug, pesticide policies specific to these states? There are so many variables, it could be something no one has ever thought of. But since those are the 3 states where other things have been reported, I'd think it needs investigation on many different levels. I'm glad you're here. I hope we can all work together on this and seriously keep our minds wide open. Love team work. I'm not a major player but I do have a keen sense of awareness when things cross my path that might connect. You never know when one piece of a puzzle can make a difference. Nothing should be dismissed without investigation. Happy New Year, Kritters
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Post by DonZ on Jan 2, 2014 17:03:10 GMT -5
Happy new year to you too! Kritters.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 2, 2014 17:04:56 GMT -5
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Post by kritters on Jan 2, 2014 18:06:55 GMT -5
Thanks for this, Don. I am a huge fan of Jeff Smith and it's good to see everything I know in one interview so I can pass it on. I have ADD so I'm a bit anal and tend to focus on things as well as jump around, but it works for me :-) www.cotton.org/pubs/cottoncounts/story/where.cfm Since Texas, Cal and Fla are the largest border states to water access, the implications are huge and vast. Being a lay person, i can only take one thing at a time and ponder. What if Roundup Ready mixed with mold from these high water tables is activated by that or what if it is designed to create something else because of it? Directions: mix with water and stir. there are also military bases in Cal, Fla and Texas (and elsewhere, I know) which all have labs as well, I'm sure. what they have created in roundup ready is a monster which can be so disasterous in unknown ways. MD can be so complex and yet possibly so simple to figure out given the accumulation of all kinds of possible data. What would Sherlock do? Best, Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 2, 2014 18:18:41 GMT -5
Just thinking aloud now. Still watching your link, Don. So the focus is GM crops and I have no doubt. So, not everyone has Morgellons. What if only people who have Lyme (diagnosed or not) are affected by the GMO crops? Even though Lyme was first discovered in Lyme Connecticut, for some reason Texas, Cal and Fla posted major outbreaks. Now of course, it's everywhere. Fun spreads fast, esp when there are chemtrails and Roundup used by everyone across the board. People have Lyme and so many are undiagnosed. It's not only spread by the tick, but mosquitos. Where do mosquitos hang out? In high water table areas. I realize I'm being too focused on this, but until I find something else that gets my attention, I can't get past the Tex, Cal and Fla thing.
Or are the labs releasing the connecting dna from these areas? Geez, chemistry and dna and all of that is so complex; way out of my league, but I won't stop thinking and look forward to what anyone else has to offer on this.
Best,
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 2, 2014 18:26:01 GMT -5
Okay, not at 15 minutes into his talk. Glyphosate was designed to bind with minerals. A chelating effect. How many people have mercury in their bodies? I had overload from eating too much seafood and dental amalgams. How many people have silver fillings? So, we eat unwashed vegetables or any food sprayed with roundup ready, and because we have heavy metals in our systems, glyphosate binds with it and who the hell knows what happens next?
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Post by kritters on Jan 2, 2014 18:46:28 GMT -5
Don, thanks again so much for sending this link. I love this man.
Now I'm at 28 minutes.
Interesting. I was thinking recently that it really isn't necessary to put so much time, money and energy into making them label GMOs when all we have to do is label GMO FREE!!! And he just said that!!!
I'm a genius, I tells ya!!! LOL
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Post by kritters on Jan 2, 2014 19:36:26 GMT -5
Okay, Don.
I just finished watching that incredible video with Jeff Smith. Just what I needed. He is amazing. There might be a connection with Fla, Cal and Tex, but I don't really care anymore because I don't have the time or energy to find it.
What I came away from this talk was something I've been thinking about for some time. We are either going to be able to win against this because of people and organizations like Jeff Smith or we will be going by the wayside as a civiliziation as all the other lost civilizations. I think we will be giving it the best fight we can, but we have too many Dumfukistanis in this world who don't understand what is really going on.
One thing I'm hoping for is that we as organisms might be able to handle this genetic modification and morph into a higher level of existence because we also, in most cases, believe in a higher, benevolent power in whom we trust to bring us through this.
I do know, based on my input from several years being into all of this, is that we are up against an evil, demonic, possibly an alien force. But I'm not worried. They can freaking huff and puff and show their stuff (yes, I'm a poet) but ain't any competion for the almighty, whatever it is.
May the force be with us. And I believe it is.
Kritts
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 3, 2014 3:16:53 GMT -5
There might be a connection with Fla, Cal and Tex, but I don't really care anymore because I don't have the time or energy to find it. From my research and experiments is most likely due to agriculture in those states. Due to copper chelating insecticides making one vulnerable to prion issues. This link and other pages on the leftside gives good information on copper chelating insecticides making one vulnerable to prion issues. www.markpurdey.com/articles_educatingrida_7.htm Prions are highly connected ALS, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, CJD/mad cow and with morgellons filaments (my opinon). Can even heal morgellons non healing wounds by using methods designed for inhibiting prions in my experience and it appears inhibit the growth of morgellons fibers based on number of samples collected inside living areas of house by inhibiting prions directly or using most powerful methods for inhibiting viruses
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Post by DonZ on Jan 3, 2014 13:49:47 GMT -5
The agriculture issue makes a lot of sense. Cattle get Bovine Digital Dermatitis which is MD but they slaughter them at a young age so it doesn't develop plus it's hard to see with all that hair. They do crop rotation and use land that has possibly grown soy,corn, etc. GMO crops. The Cattle are wandering around in that soil for a year with all the shed agrobacterium T. It gets symptomatic on the legs right above the hooves because that is the closest to the soil. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257881/Kritters; One thing I'm trying to do with my internet activity is create market pressure for herbal remedies instead of ABX. The ABX are another huge problem because they last a long time and get in the environment where they kill the good microbes. This lady is a hero of mine. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9JIVU5J4TYwww.youtube.com/watch?v=tUKEd5BSJM4www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5R_cFSM-0Awww.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO7Oyz-oY0~d
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Post by DonZ on Jan 4, 2014 8:57:16 GMT -5
For anyone wanting to truly understand Agrobacterium mediated gene transfer then here is the pdf which is 773 pages long and is edited by Citovsky, because he is a world authority on the subject. There are about 50 contributing authors. There are very many descriptions of Agrobacterium transferring T-DNA into eukaryotic cells. A Eukaryote is any organism whose cells contain a nucleus, mammals have Eukaryotic cells. About the Editors: Dr. Tzvi Tzfira is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology at the University of Michigan. Dr. Vitaly Citovsky is a Professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology at Stony Brook University. www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/biochem/citovsky/60.pdfFrom page 173, there are numerous explanations of this in this document. "Abstract. Agrobacterium is a bacterial plant pathogen capable of transferring a specific fragment of DNA, called the T-DNA, into plants and other organisms. Once in a eukaryotic cell, the T-DNA moves to the nucleus and integrates into the genome at an essentially random location. T-DNA integration generally leads to tumor formation in the plant host, and Agrobacterium’s ability to transfer DNA has been adapted as an important tool for mutagenesis and genetic engineering of plants and fungi. Agrobacterium tumefaciens C58 was the first species of Agrobacterium to have a fully-sequenced genome, and the sequence data are catalyzing expansion of A. tumefaciens research beyond its traditional focus on plant pathogenesis and T-DNA transfer. This chapter reviews many of the findings of the original genome publications and discusses many new insights derived from the availability of the genome sequence." Bearing in mind the nature of what is actually taking place in respect to the government suppressing scientists ,USA ,who would bring this information to light then Citovsky said what he needed to keep his job. I actually emailed him at one point about MD and his exact response to me was "We no longer work on that, I'm sorry." Obama just signed the Monsanto Protection Act, the head of our FDA is a former Monsanto lawyer,Michael R. Taylor. Kritters said, "One thing I'm hoping for is that we as organisms might be able to handle this genetic modification and morph into a higher level of existence because we also, in most cases, believe in a higher, benevolent power in whom we trust to bring us through this." It's this kind of technology that runs against Nature, God whatever you call it, as a species we have fallen from grace with god and created an evil force that seeks to dominate the inherent innocence in nature. Any life forms nature creates are good. Ant life forms that man creates are evil. We are now at a point as a species to decide weather good or evil will win the battle for this planet. You can not fix Morgellons disease with anything created in a laboratory period. That is just another medium of evil. You have to go to Nature and use the gifts in Nature to fight this battle. That is the stark reality.
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Post by kritters on Jan 4, 2014 20:21:15 GMT -5
Hello, JDP!!! Thanks so much for your input here!. It's lovely that obviously brilliant people like you and Don are joining in to interact your thoughts with Sky's, Lil Sis, and a few others.
And thanks again to you, Don.
This is fantastic!
Kritters
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Post by kritters on Jan 4, 2014 20:26:28 GMT -5
Don, you said, " Cattle get Bovine Digital Dermatitis which is MD but they slaughter them at a young age so it doesn't develop plus it's hard to see with all that hair. They do crop rotation and use land that has possibly grown soy,corn, etc. GMO crops. The Cattle are wandering around in that soil for a year with all the shed agrobacterium T. "
What would happen when people eat that calf/cow?
I remember when reading about Mad Cow disease (I'm pretty sure I helped post some information here on this forum years ago about it) and one school of thought is that pesticides caused it. So, Roundup ready in the feed they eat and the alfalfa/grass they graze on?
Best, Kritts
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Post by DonZ on Jan 5, 2014 8:21:37 GMT -5
Kritters;
I had a lot of my research links in my favorites and had a computer problem so lost a bunch, now I save them in a word file that is backed up. I did have a PDF of a study saying Ag -T survived stomach acid long enough to be taken up by stomach wall cells, as well you can be infected in the mouth. I'm sure cooking will kill that bacteria but I only eat organic beef now. It's Not only the Roundup ready- Herbicide, HT, but also the insecticide producing crops , BT, and the actual trait modification crops too. Yum.
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Post by kritters on Jan 5, 2014 12:38:13 GMT -5
Hey Don,
I will have to work on my files. I'm all over the place. Not just here on Morgellons, but so many health related research. All of these "autoimmune diseases" seem to be the same with different names. Did you know that there are hundreds? And when you google each of them (MS, diabetes, Lupus etc), they don't know what causes it and don't have a cure for it, but they sure as hell have a medication for it.
Anyway, I only eat organic chicken, and I'm kicking and screaming to hold onto that even. I could go on about how my diet has changed with knowledge, but won't bore you.
I really wonder, though if these freaky pathogens are really killed with cooking at all. There are things in the mix that even high temps can't touch and stomach acid is a happy hour cocktail to them. If it gets into the mouth unscathed, and slip into our systems undetected by our immune systems, they are home free.
I speak in layperson generalities, so I apologize for my simplistic way of thinking. I don't believe our immune systems are able to detect or handle the stealth pathogens or the unnatural entities which Sky speaks of. Either our immune systems are overworked, distracted and insufficient, or they can't detect them at all. Like a Star Wars episode fighting against an invisible evil entity.
I never realized how lethal proteins can be. I'm beginning to think they are the ultimate decision-makers, depending upon how they form, and by how the new chemical creations cause them to mutate.
Guess I will have to tune in to the latest sci-fi movies, since they always seem to come true.
Best,
Kritts
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