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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 10:34:42 GMT -5
I did a search and the only place that showed this was in one of Kammy's posts this month, so if there is a major thread on this already, please let me know.
I've been very sick for the past 2-3 weeks. I mean...SICK. Sleeping 19 hours a day and wishing I were dead the other hours.
As we all are, I'm very observant about what is going on in detail in my body. I know this all started after being outside after a heavy onslaught of chemtrails. It got progressively worse, and I am now hot on the cytomegalo virus. It puts together EVERYTHING I've been researching to find out with relationship to my symptoms and overall health situation, beginning when I was a child.
Hearing loss (yes) congenitally inherited (yes) fungus, virus and bacteria (I know this is the critter) I have herpes and just had a huge break out under my nostril (which herpes does not do...but CMV does) It's manmade (shocker) involved in sinus infections (it's established that fungus plays a large role (of course, I believe that's C. Albicans). So when they give anti-biotics and not anti-fungals for sinus infections, it must address the bacterial aspect enough to somehow clear it up (sometimes antibacterials don't work on sinus infections).
So, this is what I believe I have in my system and I'm going to go back and read what Kam gave us about what takes care of it (I should have copy/pasted before starting this thread).
I just realized I didn't search CMV, so I'll do that as well. I don't know that it has anything to do with Morgellons, per se, but I do know lesions are involved.
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 10:36:19 GMT -5
J Am Acad Dermatol. 1983 Dec;9(6):937-46.
Histologically specific skin lesions in disseminated cytomegalovirus infection. Pariser RJ. Abstract A diabetic renal transplant recipient developed fever, generalized rash, and genital ulcers which showed typical histologic changes of cytomegalovirus (CMV) infection in the dermal vascular endothelium. This infection was confirmed by rising serologic titer of specific antibody, positive viral cultures, and typical nuclear inclusion bodies in pulmonary and hepatic tissue at autopsy. Biopsy of the patient's skin lesions provided the opportunity for early diagnosis of this fatal systemic CMV infection. Two clinical patterns of specific cutaneous involvement in disseminated CMV infection are discussed. PMID: 6315790 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Publication Types, MeSH Terms
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 10:44:51 GMT -5
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 10:52:50 GMT -5
From Kam's post under chimeric change: "Iron-binding proteins en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron-binding_proteinsIron-binding proteins are carrier proteins and metalloproteins which play many important roles in metabolism. They bind Iron and can therefore inhibit microbial growth. Two iron-binding proteins are lactoferrin and transferrin." Lactoferrin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactoferrin"Lactoferrin belongs to the innate immune system. Apart from its main biological function, namely binding and transport of iron ions, lactoferrin also has antibacterial, antiviral, antiparasitic, catalytic, anti-cancer, anti-allergic and radioprotecting functions and properties.[21] Antibacterial activity Antibacterial activity of lactoferrin is best studied; it originates from the iron-binding properties of lactoferrin, which deprive the bacterial flora from an element necessary for its growth.[22] Antibacterial action of lactoferrin is also explained by the presence of specific receptors on the cell surface of microorganisms. Antiviral activity Lactoferrin acts, mostly in vitro, on a wide range of human and animal viruses based on DNA and RNA genomes,[28] including the herpes simplex virus 1 and 2,[29][30] cytomegalovirus,[31] HIV,[30][32] hepatitis C virus,[33][34] hantaviruses, rotaviruses, poliovirus type 1,[35] human respiratory syncytial virus and murine leukemia viruses.[26] Antifungal activity Lactoferrin and lactoferricin inhibit in vitro growth of Trichophyton mentagrophytes, which are responsible for several skin diseases such as ringworm.[37] Lactoferrin also acts against the Candida albicans – a diploid fungus (a form of yeast) that causes opportunistic oral and genital infections in humans. So I'm gonna find out where to buy me summadat Lactoferrin!! Kritts
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 11:13:19 GMT -5
Hi Krittsy,
Sorry to hear that you've been sick lately. I think that several of us have mentioned that CMV is probably in the mix? There are pathogens that we take for granted that are most likely involved and may not talk about them a lot, CMV - being one of them. I guess, I should add these 'assumed to be there' list of what we think Morgellons is?
I don't know if the Japanese radiation issue is having any adverse affects on people's health in the U.S., as I am not an expert in radiation nor in anything, for that matter... lol - but, it has drifted around the world by now. We're still trying to figure out what Morgellons is, and now we have to add in radiation isotopes to the mix? Ok, just add radioactive isotopes to the assumed...
I've had an earache/sinus infection-like issue for about two weeks now with an ongoing earache/headache, I'm taking antibiotics for it. This happened about the time the air from Japan was supposed to arrive here - plus, I went outside for a little bit - after being outside is when the earache started. It seems that every other day there's a news calamity to make our air/water more polluted - so, being outside for long periods of time might not be for the best right now? Plus, there's more 'mystery pollen' blowing about this time of year... gosh, everything is out to get us! lol
I'm seeing photos of how low and how much they seem to be spraying over there, it appears to be lower and more than I remember.
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 11:27:58 GMT -5
Search - 'nuclear inclusion bodies' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusion_body"Inclusion bodies are nuclear or cytoplasmic aggregates of stainable substances, usually proteins. They typically represent sites of viral multiplication in a bacterium or a eukaryotic cell and usually consist of viral capsid proteins. Inclusion bodies can also be hallmarks of genetic diseases, as in the case of Neuronal Inclusion bodies in disorders like Frontotemporal dementia and Parkinson's disease.[1] Mechanism of formation When genes from one organism are expressed in another the resulting protein sometimes forms inclusion bodies. This is often true when large evolutionary distances are crossed: a cDNA isolated from Eukarya for example, and expressed as a recombinant gene in a prokaryote risks the formation of the inactive aggregates of protein known as inclusion bodies. While the cDNA may properly code for a translatable mRNA, the protein that results will emerge in a foreign microenvironment. This often has fatal effects, especially if the intent of cloning is to produce a biologically active protein."
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 11:29:48 GMT -5
Hey Kam, I figured there was more info here on it, but it didn't show up in a search. I don't know how much chemtrail activity you have over there, but ours is freakin daily. Pretty bad when you can't even bring your kids out into the sun to play for fear of them getting sick (which they and I did). Here's a good article I just passed around to people: www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164825Yeah, compiling a list of possible organism involvement would be a great idea! Gunna go to bed now. xoxoKritts
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 11:31:44 GMT -5
BTW...
Has anyone found a good source for quality supplements?
thanks,
Kritters
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Post by skyship on Apr 6, 2011 13:08:59 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding us of the CMV, also most who have that have EB Epstein Barr issues too. It think the CMV was in a circular DNA construction of some sort as well. Here is used in cytoskeletal restructuring. "We find that a CMV enhancer/CMV promoter is not active in most cell types in the skin, whereas a CMV enhancer/modified β-actin promoter sequence is active in the suprabasal and basal cells of the epidermis as well as in the epithelial cells of the hair follicles, sebaceous glands, and the dermal papillae. Author Keywords: CMV; β-actin; promoter; ubiquitous expression; cutaneous epithelium tinyurl.com/3kj23e5=========================== This is the construction name: it looks like the actin is enhanced by this promoter? CMV enhancer/modified β-actin promoter Thanks for that Kritters this does fit into the cytoskeletal restructuring issue. The cell itself, and CMV and EPB must be the mutating factors. Will look more into that, I found it once, but this article actually names it. Skyship
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Post by skyship on Apr 6, 2011 13:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by 1lunker on Apr 6, 2011 13:54:00 GMT -5
Candida+ HSV1/2 + CMV (then add mycoplasmas) = morgellons at onset then open lesions attract other organisms (crypto/dichty/MRSA/Aspg/mites/ etc). Just a thought. Wondering if morg issues with gi tract are just herpetic colitis sorta problem. COuld mycoplasma infections lead positive HIV on western blot? knowledge-storage.com/medicine/37-medicine/133-herpetic-infection
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 14:27:04 GMT -5
Sky, Thanks for all of this. the links are over my head but I'll take your word that it might be significant and appreciate the nod. With all the vaccine experiments to market being done, this little CMV is probably being way over-worked and now more ubiquitous than ever. The hair follicle invasion is a definite for me with all my fungo-hairs on my arms. I used to call them Einstein hairs. ;D Oddly, now I hardly have any hair on my arms at all. But even at my age of over 60 (shhh : didn't have any grey hair until I came down with this chit. Totally fungal related and I read that the cause of grey hair is lack of enzymes. So the fungus is prolly eating the enzymes. Anyway, I look forward to what you find out. Kritts
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 14:47:38 GMT -5
Great article, I hope you get to feeling better.
(I think it was discussed on the MDR site?)
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 14:49:22 GMT -5
From the link I posted:
chronic fatigue patient and discovered a new life form that is now recognized by American medical authorities called a viteria. A viteria is part virus, part bacteria and part fungus in terms of its gene sequences, something that looks very much genetically engineered and actually morphs or transforms itself from one to the other. We noted earlier that these autoimmune diseases that are afflicting more and more North Americans seem to have a viral bacterial and/or fungal origin. Dr. Martin stated that the cytomegalovirus which results in severe headaches and joint pain among other symptoms is found in monkey cell cultures used to culture live polio vaccine. We are well aware of the illness and fatalities resulting from that vaccine. Where else have we seen live monkey viruses contaminating vaccines? The Hepatitis B vaccineintroduced into the gay population in seven U.S. cities by the CDC, including New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, preceded the outbreak of AIDS in those seven cities and only those seven cities. And I thought, "Well, let's follow the monkey business further to Litton Bionetics. Litton Bionetics supplies the monkeys, the monkey cultures, the monkey viruses, and administers all of Fort Detrick's bioweapons programs. Its president, Roy Ash was National Security Advisor to President Nixon along with Henry Kissinger, who wrote the infamous Memorandum 200 calling for a population reduction across the planet.
I had several things going on at once while being ill these last few weeks. It was almost as if I could actually feel the morphing happening systematically, or just all hell breaking loose with the CMV (which encompasses all kinds of herpes, not just 1 and 2) Wonder why they can't cure herpes anyway? hmmm right. Sure they can't. If you create it, you can freaking cure it. Why would you cure something that generates so many pharma sales? My facial lesion (looks like eczema spot) is really the enigma and after it was cleared by anti fungal and antibiotic last month, came back in all its glory when I got sick. I put a paste of bentonite clay and salt on it and at first it burned so much I had to wash it off and apply fresh aloe, but it's going away. I'm wondering what the hell this is really.
Bottom line: CMV would explain all of what has been going on with my body, and I think that, depending on my daily body chemistry, or whether I was infected with a bacteria, or a fungus or a virus, the CMV goes to town.
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 14:51:50 GMT -5
Great article, I hope you get to feeling better. (I think it was discussed on the MDR site?) Could have been, Kam, but I'm no longer there. I may have even posted on it but it's funny how something can have a whole new focus under given circumstances. So, if it was discussed, I'm wondering why it was left in archives when it seems so significant? thanks for the well-wishes. Kritts
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 15:09:34 GMT -5
I thought you were laying down? lol *wink...
I heard years ago from my Naturopath or Chiropractor, one - that when they did a certain test, that it showed that I had the Cytomegalovirus. I naturally said, 'what is that' and 'how the heck did I get it?' either out loud or to myself. I often questioned the Chiropractor's testing methods because she was 'advanced' and in some cases - it didn't seem like she was using sound science to reach her conclusions.
However, I have to say that after dosing myself with the Homeopathic waters, taking the Chiropractor's supplements, doing their treatments, etc. that they always made me feel better. So, I couldn't argue with that.
I don't know if traditional doctors have a test for Cytomegalovirus, I would assume they do or how hard it is to get them to test for it according to your Insurance plan, at your suggestion, etc.? All I know is - I was treated for it by one of these other doctors, don't know if I cleared it or not - but, always felt physically better after their treatments and at least they are aware of it and could possibly help you with it?
This Chiropractor also said that I had Epstein-Barr virus without a blood test, which - I don't doubt, was treated for it and think that most of us probably have a good assortment of viruses in common.
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 15:35:20 GMT -5
Is Cytomegalovirus and/or herpes a lipid coated virus?
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 16:05:55 GMT -5
I did take a nap before that last post. I didn't bring this up because it's something I feel is specific to me, Kam. I brought it up because I think, at least in my situation and maybe others, CMV could be the underlying culprit in allowing Morgellons to take hold. That lesion on my face I just spoke of which looks like eczema to the untrained eye, actually has fibers coming from it when I spray hydrogen peroxide continually. Whatever those fibers are I'm sure are systemic in my body, whether just Candida or CMV (which lies dormant unless immune compromised). Is CMV hosting Morgellons? Yes, there is a test for it and I'm going to have it done. From other articles and abstracts I've read, it seems CMV and Mycoplasma team up to be a lethal combination in people. There's a lot I don't know, but if my experience can help someone else, I will continue to post what I find. Also, hopefully others here will stumble upon some kind of connection. Until this week, CMV didn't realy float my boat, but now it does. It's associated with AIDS, and we all know that's man-made. If there is a connection, I look forward to any available information. Anything that can morph the way CMV does is a very dangerous organism (group of) and most people don't even know it exists. Kritts
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 16:11:52 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 16:27:43 GMT -5
I found this post by Katinka on MDR:
"Another thing that caught my interest was that Cytomegalovirus is linked to several illnesses such as Autism and OCD.
Infections that are in implicated in the medical literature as causing or triggering cases of autism include: Herpes, Rubella, Mycoplasma Pneumoniae, Shingella, Borna, Malaria, Blastocystics, Varicella, Cytomegalo Virus (CMV), Syphilis, Toxplasmosis, Neurocysticercosis, and Clostridium.
I've been looking at CMV which is linked to the Cauliflower Mosaic Virus used in bio-insecticides similar to Baculo."
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 16:42:57 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 16:51:25 GMT -5
"Is CMV hosting Morgellons?"
Hosting might not be the right word? The Host that holds our 'artifacts' grows into a big sucker, it fills up the microscope screen at the smallest magnification. A virus is tiny in comparison and shouldn't even been seen.
What if that mo-jo the doctors put on me to clear my CMV and EPV worked?... and I still got Morgellons? Nah, I probably still have those...
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 17:13:49 GMT -5
Here's a good experiment for ya' Kritts, to see if the eczema aspect - which is just another aspect of Morgellons (IMO), reacts favorably to the coconut oil? If CMV is a predominate or major culprit, the coconut oil should cure most all symptoms?
I'll try another coconut oil experiment on my lesions too... (and drink some, too.)
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 18:25:55 GMT -5
Kam,
I used coconut oil on it continually the last time I had the breakout and it did nothing. (I began using coconut oil for my moisturizer and yes, I cook with it as well).I don't think that is a determining factor. I also think that whatever your healer did to clear your CMV might have caused it to morph or just lay low instead, as these viruses go into dormancy. I think it's way more complicated than you're making it out to be, but that's just my opinion.
The "eczema" on my face began as a small sore that wouldn't go away. I kept treating it with peroxide, anti-bacterial ointment, salycilic acid, and other things, hoping something would work. it got really bad because I realize I didn't sterilyze the tweezers when taking off dead skin or plucking off the black specs the peroxide floated to the surface. It got bigger and redder and formed sheets of biofilm-skin. Picture a patch of itchy redness. After applying the peroxide, definite white spots appeared throughout the patch which indicated where the critters were hiding. I'd say it is a fungal or CMV or whatever colony. The derm gave me anti-biotic as she thought it might be Staph but culture showed nothing, which I think is bizarre. Each of those white spots grew scabs and when I went to bed they would wake me up itching as if they were moving around inside. So it's not eczema. Just eczema-looking and I'll bet dollars to donuts if someone were to do the peroxide on their "eczema" diagnosed rashes, they'd find just what I did.
I think CMV is way more complex than to do simple experiments with things to determine whether or not it's involved.
BTW, why would you think coconut oil would cure symptoms?
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 18:38:43 GMT -5
"Is CMV hosting Morgellons?" Hosting might not be the right word? The Host that holds our 'artifacts' grows into a big sucker, it fills up the microscope screen at the smallest magnification. A virus is tiny in comparison and shouldn't even been seen. What if that mo-jo the doctors put on me to clear my CMV and EPV worked?... and I still got Morgellons? Nah, I probably still have those... A virus needs another cell in order to multiply. (mycoplasma does not). Maybe CMV and mycoplasma are a team as I mentioned from that article that spoke of how together they almost killed a young person. the virus doesn't have to be visible in order to be the underlying culprit in a disease, and in this case, it can be living off any bacteria, such as the MRSA. I don't think that everyone who has Morgellons has the same combination of organisms or things going on in their bodies which would pre-dispose them to Morgellons. I have an overload of iron and mercury in my system, which is why, ironically lactoferrin is indicated to fight CLM by isolating the iron and therefore disallowing it to be used by the virus to live. It's all fitting together for me with CLM and I think if I get rid of CLM, Candida and my heavy metals, the Morgellons will follow suit. Kritts
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 20:29:46 GMT -5
My Naturopath would take a blood sample, a urine and saliva sample. Take each one and put them into a computer together and the computer would give him a read-out of what was wrong with you. He had people standing in line for months to get in to see him and it was at least $500 a visit that Insurance doesn't cover. I always felt 100% better after seeing him.
My Chiropractor used bioset and other 'advanced' new age techniques to diagnose and heal with. I would hold a metal piece as she would introduce various pathogens in viles into a machine and it would somehow could tell if I had whatever she was introducing. Another method - she would have me hold a plastic bottle with a vitamin or supplement in it and press my arm down, if my arm went down, it meant I needed to be taking that particular vitamin - she made a small fortune off of me using that technique over the years. I think I trusted the Naturopath's diagnosis more because he was testing blood and urine, where she wasn't.
I believe it was the Chiropractor that made this diagnosis of CMV and EBV, which I don't know if it was factual or not, supposedly treated me and supposedly cleared it. I can't remember how exactly - I spent years visiting these doctors along with traditional doctors.
I personally believe that if I had CMV and EBV to begin with - that I probably still do have them (which are common to have), and that whatever they did - didn't work completely - that's why I said... 'nah, I probably still have them'.
I don't think I that totally trusted her methods - not with this in particular, but over the years of the various products that she had me purchase because she sold these products out of her office and I developed a personal relationship in which I knew that she needed money to pay for school loans, etc. When I talked to Aqt on the phone about who in my area did bioset for Morgellons, it was this particular Chiropractor that I had stopped seeing and didn't want to go back to. Not to say anything against bioset, I believe she worked on me with it for various things - and, like I said - I always felt physically better after both of their treatments.
I have mixed feelings about Naturopaths and Chiropractors, good and bad. To be sure about something like this - I would want a blood test with a lab involved.
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Post by kritters on Apr 6, 2011 21:07:00 GMT -5
Kam,
I went to a bioset practitioner but only once. I intended to return but she moved to California. I hope to get up to see Cutie one of these days to see someone I trust. I do think that zapping frequencies of critters is a real phenomena and can do the trick. Hulda Clark was very successful in that method.
I think CMV, like Mycoplasma is a stealth, sneaky and opportunistic bastard which, like a whore says, "what do you WANT me to be?" It only rears its head when something else is compromising your health. Maybe that's because it takes that compromising organism and uses it to activate itself and wreak havoc on us, whether it be a fungus, bacteria, or whatever.
Ok, going to bed again, this time for the night ;D
Kritts
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Post by kammy on Apr 6, 2011 21:34:17 GMT -5
As you know, I'm not a biologist, doctor, or any kind of scientist except a computer science major who worked in the field for 30 years. I have a mind for logic. I can... if A and B are true then... if A is true then... B should be true also... all day long - because that's what I studied and did for a living. Is a computer science major a scientist, maybe - but not the kind we need. lol So, IF you tell me you think lipid coated viruses (A) are the main factors in the disease (B) AND supposedly A is true (All lipid coated (enveloped) viruses are susceptible to coconut oil's), THEN by using, taking A should eliminate B or turn B disease into a zero. B/0 A = B/0 So, IF you say that A does not work to equal B/0... THEN either A is not lipid coated (possibly its envelope/coating has been altered) OR the statement is false to begin with. It's really quite a simple computer program, it's either a true or false statement with something known that should give us the right answer. So, we have to run the program a little deeper - IF A does not equal B/0 then... go to C. What's 'C'? C is: "I have an overload of iron and mercury in my system, which is why, ironically lactoferrin is indicated to fight CLM by isolating the iron and therefore disallowing it to be used by the virus to live. It's all fitting together for me with CLM and I think if I get rid of CLM, Candida and my heavy metals, the Morgellons will follow suit." (I think you meant CMV instead of CLM... I hope...) Heavy metal removal - lactoferrin C plus Antifungal D should equal zero disease B/0. If C + D = B/0, if true then celebrate if false then go to 'E'... What if A's lipid coating is now covered in metals now too, so in order to reach the virus - you have to strip the metal coating off first by using C (lactoferrin) then (later?) go to A (coconut oil to strip off the lipid layer) while using and antifungal (D) then disease B = 0 or B/0? So, your 'E' equation line would look like: C + D + A = B/0 If there is a time frame (let's say 7 days) required to strip the metal layer off, before the coconut oil would work, and 28 days of antifungals meds, then the simple equation would look like this: C/D x 7 days + C/D/A x 21 days = B/0 We're getting close to solving this. uh... Another possibility, and I hate to mention it... but, what if the virus has 2 coatings... iron and carbon? NOW, it's starting to get a little complicated... ;D
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Post by lilsissy on Apr 6, 2011 23:14:03 GMT -5
The( Morgellons ?) 1q42 insert is put in a break in our code caused by Cytomegalovirus and ahhh gezz, pertussin toxin..a.k.a whopping cough which my son and grandchildren had last winter.
Whopping cough made a come back here in Michigan.
Cytomegalovirus is a D.N.A. code breaker.
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Post by kammy on Apr 7, 2011 7:23:36 GMT -5
I am so right brained... what does that mean to the equation? It's still got a lipid coating, so - we're ok.
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