bubby
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Post by bubby on Feb 1, 2012 16:01:22 GMT -5
So where are they?! Has anyone heard from them? Have they been silenced?! Someone who went by the name of "Chokit" I believe (?) and posted regularly on the site below, said they were chosen to be a Kaiser study participant. At the time they were excited & eagerly awaited the start. Does anyone know this person? Has anyone heard from anyone involved? Surely, I'm not the first to make this inquiry? It's been on my mind quite some time tho and I can't believe (or can I?) no one's spoken up. This is so flippin' revolting, I have to steal myself away & limit my internet use to protect from depression. I would however, like to know if this post receives any positive replies, so I'll check back after a time. Please check here for Chokit's postings, or anyone else who may have alluded to being invloved with the study: www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/Deeply grateful to all of you. God Bless & Godspeed.
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Post by rafael25 on Feb 1, 2012 16:08:57 GMT -5
So where are they?! Has anyone heard from them? Have they been silenced?! Someone who went by the name of "Chokit" I believe (?) and posted regularly on the site below, said they were chosen to be a Kaiser study participant. At the time they were excited & eagerly awaited the start. Does anyone know this person? Has anyone heard from anyone involved? Surely, I'm not the first to make this inquiry? It's been on my mind quite some time tho and I can't believe (or can I?) no one's spoken up. This is so flippin' revolting, I have to steal myself away & limit my internet use to protect from depression. I would however, like to know if this post receives any positive replies, so I'll check back after a time. Please check here for Chokit's postings, or anyone else who may have alluded to being invloved with the study: www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/Deeply grateful to all of you. God Bless & Godspeed. Hearing from anyone involved is not part of the etiquette. Have you heard from 'anyone involved' regarding the first polio vaccine? Science is not like the democracy of politics. Science works with simplified models. Please do not become paralyzed thinking about where people go after they become volunteers in a study. We are all going to die. What exactly are you afraid of? This is a fair question. Please have peace and may you profit from this life. May you grab onto as much happiness as you can possibly can. Please do not expect to obtain freedom from the collectivity. This is a task for every individual.
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Post by kammy on Feb 1, 2012 19:22:35 GMT -5
I think I understand, Raffy, I hope Bubby does? The helper angels are here to help the more earth-bound people. Some may not, through acceptance and knowing, be as fearful of death as the others. There is some sort of unwritten, unspoken protocol in understanding that the helpers are not to interfere in this fear process, that it is a requirement to know peace. We cannot know health unless we know illness, we cannot know love unless we know hate, etc. It is about a process that we must all individually go through in order to be ready for the next level or our ascension. You are in the depression state of the grieving process, Bubby, which some of us move in and out of. Not to say to just accept it for what it is and do not attempt to know more - as it is a most horrible existence, a hell on earth; but to try to make peace with it the best you can so that you can know some enjoyment in life again - depending on your circumstances, if that is possible? These people in the study are not being transparent for whatever reasons; they most likely signed to a nondisclosure agreement which probably is a crime if you violate it along with fear could be a part of it? In this process of creating a junk yard for the king to be sitting on the top of the trash heap at the end; the scientists are afraid that the junk yard dog is going to come along and bite them if they venture in... or something like that... 5 Stages of Grief www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDOrQihLRqk
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Post by kritters on Feb 1, 2012 19:42:28 GMT -5
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Post by lilsissy on Feb 1, 2012 22:33:20 GMT -5
someone from the study wrote me, will recheck my mail.
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Post by lilsissy on Feb 1, 2012 22:48:50 GMT -5
here is the email i recieved minus the name
Sat, 5/1/10, ............@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Subject: morgellons To: Firstfruits11@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 11:58 PM
I have Morgellons and live in Nor Cal and was part of the Posted by: AnnaRKey May 1, 2010 0 0 Total Score: 0 CDC Dr Michelle Pearsonand Kaiser Dr Joe Selby research program. I was able to obtain the purchase order from the Morgellons Research Foundation website that the CDCissued to Kaiser. It states very clearly that all info and labs remain property of the CDC under National Security. It has been 2 years since they were hear and I am still very ill. THank you for your post. Sincerely,
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Post by lilsissy on Feb 1, 2012 22:53:33 GMT -5
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Post by kritters on Feb 1, 2012 23:20:21 GMT -5
here is the email i recieved minus the name Sat, 5/1/10, ............@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Subject: morgellons To: Firstfruits11@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 11:58 PM I have Morgellons and live in Nor Cal and was part of the Posted by: AnnaRKey May 1, 2010 0 0 Total Score: 0 CDC Dr Michelle Pearsonand Kaiser Dr Joe Selby research program. I was able to obtain the purchase order from the Morgellons Research Foundation website that the CDCissued to Kaiser. It states very clearly that all info and labs remain property of the CDC under National Security. It has been 2 years since they were hear and I am still very ill. THank you for your post. Sincerely, maybe she should contact ACLU or some such I can't think clearly enough to suggest. You know, there has to be a central organization, encompassing all of our forums, our comrads on the web and with whom we have a bond. Kritts
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Post by 1lunker on Feb 2, 2012 8:53:30 GMT -5
My due diligence indicate Anna R. Key Was an gov. agent provocateur. Probably a CDc or Kaiser asset. That chick in Vt. Cebek, she's a gov asset too. I'm sure of both of these posters being disinfo assets. Ever wonder about their disappearance? Lack of genuine disclosure?
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Post by kritters on Feb 2, 2012 9:11:53 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised. I always suspected at least a few of the regulars on that forum were disinformants, which is why I'm no longer on it.
That and cuz I got kicked off..... ;D
Kritts
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Post by kammy on Feb 2, 2012 12:26:24 GMT -5
"all info and labs remain property of the CDC under National Security"...
Well, some have mentioned how if what we think is happening is really happening that this could be a national security issue. But with the outcome... how could a group of drug users, solvent sniffers, in poor health with a non-contagious delusion be any threat to national security?
Wasn't this an 'internet disease'... contagious by suggestion? - I'm confused.
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bubby
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Post by bubby on Feb 3, 2012 16:45:26 GMT -5
Thank you all for your posts - particularly the 'common sense' ones. I wasn't looking for a philosophical discussion on what plagues me (or us) but some real answers and/or confirmation re. my suspicions as to why we no longer hear from these folks. (This is not to say that I am not deeply spiritual -- indeed it is my spirituality and life philosopy that has kept me from going completely bonkers -- only a little now -- throughout all this nastiness. To that end, I could go on and on, but I think it best saved for elsewhere, preferring here to be concise and relevant to all. Love to all you ALL. Best for a great weekend. Enjoy the game!
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Post by rafael25 on Feb 3, 2012 16:49:22 GMT -5
Thank you all for your posts - particularly the 'common sense' ones. I wasn't looking for a philosophical discussion on what plagues me (or us) but some real answers and/or confirmation re. my suspicions as to why we no longer hear from these folks. (This is not to say that I am not deeply spiritual -- indeed it is my spirituality and life philosopy that has kept me from going completely bonkers -- only a little now -- throughout all this nastiness. To that end, I could go on and on, but I think it best saved for elsewhere, preferring here to be concise and relevant to all. Love to all you ALL. Best for a great weekend. Enjoy the game! GO ahead, Babe...there is no harm in being counter-intuitive... I hope that you manage to connect with the people from the study. I mean, if you are really really really thinking about them it's probably because there is something there that worth the wish. Seek and you shall find. Whew! I wish there was a way to connect with them. Best, Raffy.
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Post by Chocket on May 17, 2015 13:18:58 GMT -5
This is 2015. I was a participant in the CDC/Kaiser trials. I would be happy to share any info. Since the last post was in 2008, I will wait for replies.
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Post by threader on May 19, 2015 12:22:37 GMT -5
Have you undergone lyme testing from an independent laboratory Chocket?
Were there any instructions given to you regarding disclosing details about the study?
Why do you feel a military institution was brought into the study?
Why do you feel the report was delayed so long after the completion of the study?
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