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Post by kritters on Jan 5, 2014 13:14:20 GMT -5
There might be a connection with Fla, Cal and Tex, but I don't really care anymore because I don't have the time or energy to find it. From my research and experiments is most likely due to agriculture in those states. Due to copper chelating insecticides making one vulnerable to prion issues. This link and other pages on the leftside gives good information on copper chelating insecticides making one vulnerable to prion issues. www.markpurdey.com/articles_educatingrida_7.htm Prions are highly connected ALS, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, CJD/mad cow and with morgellons filaments (my opinon). Can even heal morgellons non healing wounds by using methods designed for inhibiting prions in my experience and it appears inhibit the growth of morgellons fibers based on number of samples collected inside living areas of house by inhibiting prions directly or using most powerful methods for inhibiting viruses Hi Jdp, I think what you posted to me sunk in subliminally. I have big time brain fog oftentimes, so I apologize for not being able to focus on one thing or another and then coming back to it. As I just said to Don, I think the proteins are key in most diseases. As you say. The heavy metals are also key, it's obvious to even a lay person like myself who does a lot of reading. Sky, Don, Jdp~~~ Our body chemistry is being 'messed' with so destructively, I can't imagine anyone coming up with a definitive, particular, general solution. Don seems to know his stuff and Sky knows her stuff. You obviously know your stuff. In my way of thinking, there has got to be a chemical solution to all of this in order to render it powerless in our bodies. The common denominators have to be found out. Pesticides, insecticides, man-made polymers etc. Sky and Lil Sis know about, resulting mutations in proteins, whatever. They are all involved. If the four of you could put your genius heads together, I think there is a fighting chance. And Kammy, wherever she is. I know I shouldn't even be taking up anyone's time posting my thoughts here, but I really do appreciate the tolerance of it by everyone here. I can't seem to be able to help myself, though. Best, Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 5, 2014 20:11:02 GMT -5
Sky,
Isn't it possible that the telechelic polymers could be recombinant DNA, part natural and part man-made in order to carry out a job?
Kritts
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Post by skyship on Jan 6, 2014 0:37:41 GMT -5
Krits,
You always ask better questions, and this is good. question demand some answers, right?
Yes, and from what I have found lately, these could be made of melanin and that relates to prions, amyloids and agrobacterium also looks like ciona which is a sea squirt, in beginning stages. But, if Don Z treated this as bacterial infection, than we can glean that bacteria is involved, agrobacterium in its raw state is found on trees, and in its gmo state inside crops, and pesticides, so what we have here, is a failure to communicate what each of us have found, however Don Z is doing a good job, most of what he says makes sense, but the Dragon Root, well....mmmmm that scares me a bit......but, it too could be a solution. I think if we alkalinize, use Rife as JDP says, use DonZ's protocol, priore as Bearden explains in correct way and do not eat gmos, less meat, rinse with grapejuice for teeth pain, get the filaments out, use tumeric when we itch, cilantro, eat peppermint leaves, melatonin for sleeplessness and more melanin, the correct one to enhance our own, oxy tabs for low oxygen, walk, run, swim, and use a hot sauna, not water sauna, sweat it out. we may get more of these out of us, but we need to stop the creation of them.
However, as you say Krits recombinant and man made (chemical) organic and inorganic each filament type carrying out a job. The telechelics have charged end functions, so can adhere to other filaments made of other things, like the functional created amyloid, or spiral conformations (coiled) etc. Sometimes these appear sheated like microfilaria, but, they do not move like worms, they move by light or em or rf or microwave. So each has a function. So, if we concentrate on what those functions are, we may be able to unwind the filament formations.
The telechelic are connectors connecting to other filaments forming a matrix that actually works like a network, but, controls the body functions, dna, rna, organic/inorganic, artificial substances acting like natural substances replacing this in our bodies, in fact evolving us to a desired genetic type? Could be? All made to carry out this adaptive, evolutionary change. One job could be to monitor, sense, or to follow the health of an individual, complete inside outside job. Also, I have thought maybe some filaments are taking out other filaments that are dangerous to us. Not all may be harmful, but may be repairing what the damaging elements or agents are doing.
There are so many sizes, shapes of the filaments, and the hexagons are present in some, also the spirals, or coils, telechelics, the amyloid ribbon type ones, black, aqua, lavender, blue, white red. One could be an antenna, one a biosensor, one a RF tag, one a melanin maker, one a minichromosome (HAC), etc. Each its own job. There is also some molting, so some form a ecdysozoa, protozoan, organism, tetrahymena? or marine sea organism from the hydrovents (archaea) which can not be cultured. then the nano liars and the real alchemy nano in use. So, these things and the protein, dna, mutations, with all these type filaments in our bodies, there has to be mutations from some of the viral initiated biological cells, organisms themselves. This covers biology, geology, physics (charges), chemistry both organic and inorganic and nano forms, whether they can be created on molecular level or not. \
Hope that isn't too far fetched, but, from what I find (over 3,000 images and I see the same forms over and over) but recently the colors have changed in some of the filaments. Also am seeing a tunneling like form that does not appear organic, yet is covered in an organic type film. Like saliva, or mucus and this was mentioned by Lil Sis as well.
So, I think we are being upgraded or downgraded as the case may be or as the NWO dictates. Again this NWO could be just a political move, but the control of human health has now become part of this as well. Not only will NSA keep its dirty fingers in our business, but the One World Order will demand obedience, as the WHO and UN take over our health, land (Unesco), etc. Something must break pretty soon. The real folks out there know what is going on, including the elite space folks. We are so in the dark, but, light is appearing in unknown places. So, we must keep plugging along as we plug the lesions with good light. As Josie would say: " Stay In The Light".
You ask good questions, now look what I just did. Went overboard again.
Climbing back up Jacob's ladder,
Skyship
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Post by kritters on Jan 6, 2014 17:54:12 GMT -5
OMG Sky!!!
You did not go overboard!!! This is exactly what I was hoping for! Thank you so much. You are amazing.
If Don treated this as a bacterial infection, as you say, then he didn't have the full monty, or that old boxing sport expression might make sense, " kill the head and the body will follow". We don't know what the 'head' is. that's okay. If we can disconnect the important connections, that's a good thing, yes? So it hat worked for him, either he killed the head or he didn't have the full monty. Somewhere I read from Lil Sis and Don as well something about copper and/or other metals. And I remember Lil sis presenting something random thoughts about the cytomegalo virus being a break in some genome or something (geez I wish I were a freaking chemist). Well I am sure I have the cytomegalovirus and it has something to do with my hearing loss. thank god it didn't get me on the retardation, although some would vigorously debate it LOL.
Adding to your, "if we" , eliminating all heavy metals would be my offering. If you don't eliminate the metals, you don't eliminate the disease. Mercury in teeth for example. If you chelate, (and fresh cilantro does that) and you have mercury (silver) fillings, you are risking mobilizing the mercury from the teeth into the bloodstream again. I did that just before going to my biologic dentist to have my fillings removed. How dumb can one be? I didn't know this, but here I was sitting in a dentist chair having my mercury amalgams removed and I freaking took a bunch of chlorella that morning. I had palpitations so bad I had to sit in the chair for two hours before driving home an hour away. As good a chelator as chlorella might be, and cilantro might be, a little science is a dangerous thing, all good intentions aside. The chlorella mobilized the mercury vapors into my bloodstream, causing the palp reaction.
you wrote: "There are so many sizes, shapes of the filaments, and the hexagons are present in some, also the spirals, or coils, telechelics, the amyloid ribbon type ones, black, aqua, lavender, blue, white red. One could be an antenna, one a biosensor, one a RF tag, one a melanin maker, one a minichromosome (HAC), etc. Each its own job."
YES!!! Exactly! I wonder about that so much, esp. since there are smaller microscopic versions of the larger entity. the one thing I wonder about is how people who say they have Morgellons because they have the fibers growing from their lesions, don't specify what size they are. Are they macroscopic, or microscopic? I wouldn't know mine were bundled fibers unless I had a microscope. Some people have visible fibers without having to look through a microscope. So what is Morgellons, really? That's my question and when I see all the photos of these huge lesions, I don't see anything coming from them, but obviously they are there.
I'm beginning to think that Morgellons is really a catch all depending on what we have in our systems. Not once have I seen anywhere exactly what Morgellons supposedly is. It think it's different for everyone. There is something being incorporated in our already effed up mix of bacteria, fungus, etc. and it's a catch all. God I wish I were a biologist. I should have followed my dream from long ago but then again I'd probably be dead now for finding out who is responsible.
But it doesn't matter who is responsible any longer. What matters is that we find out how to rid ourselves of this and all the other crap being thrust upon us by greedy, money grubbing evil dirt stars.
In looking again at the prions, and the similarity to the shape of the spirochetes, I totally believe they are cousins.
you wrote: "So, I think we are being upgraded or downgraded as the case may be or as the NWO dictates. Again this NWO could be just a political move, but the control of human health has now become part of this as well. Not only will NSA keep its dirty fingers in our business, but the One World Order will demand obedience, as the WHO and UN take over our health, land (Unesco), etc. Something must break pretty soon. The real folks out there know what is going on, including the elite space folks. We are so in the dark, but, light is appearing in unknown places. So, we must keep plugging along as we plug the lesions with good light. As Josie would say: " Stay In The Light"."
Amen to that!!! May the force be with us.
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 6, 2014 19:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by DonZ on Jan 6, 2014 21:15:19 GMT -5
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 7, 2014 3:49:13 GMT -5
But, if Don Z treated this as bacterial infection, than we can glean that bacteria is involved, Hi Skyship, Don Z's protocol may also be inhibiting prions without realizing it. You see, there is an herbal formula that Dr. Loyd uses called Nano TCM or Nano M for many pathogens and will also inhibit prions. www.royalrife.com/cgi/cart.pl?db=store-m-n.dat This herbal formula reduces the prion score about 1 point a week. So with my score of 50 or 55 it would take a whole year to reduce my prion score. Other herbal formulas have also been found to reduce prions too. Elecampane, Usnea extract, Broccoli DIM extract. Usnea extract is the most powerful herb that has been found to date to inhibit prions by Dr. Loyd. Progress is always slow when inhibiting prions no matter what method is used but some methods and herbal combinations are faster than others but keep in mind that going to fast not always a good idea when inhibiting prions. If one goes too fast, will always produce unpleasant brain fog and herx reactions. The problem with prions too is that once you stop treating for prions, the score will slowly go right back up all over again. So one has to treat prions for life. I'm sure there are many other herbal combinations that will reduce prions as well. "Very" slowly I'm sure. Many years ago, I took high dose supplement called Broccomax. Taking 4 pills of broccomax per day was one of the best supplements I ever used at the time. I spent a small fortune on herbs and supplements overall and they did help to a degree and what I realize now were some of those supplements and herbals were probably inhibiting prions and why they worked. Nowadays, I look for methods or supplements that directly target prions rather than taking many different supplements and herbs. What worked "extremely" well in the beginning is when I bought the syringe and needle to remove blood at home. Enough blood as if I was donating blood. There are videos on youtube of those with hemochromatosis (genetic iron overload) where they have to remove blood at home to keep their iron levels low watching those videos helped me to get the nerve to do it and www.imed.com had the syringe and needle. This helped me tremendously in the beginning but the benefits only last a couple days before slowly getting worse all over again. In fact, reducing prion score will also clear up non healing morgellons lesions! based on my experience. But clearing up the lesions is not best indicator of progress. A better indicator is to analyze dust samples in living areas of the home to see how many morgellons fibers there are. As the morgellons fibers appear to have their origin from skin that is shed. In a previous thread this important information was posted Taking Rutin, which is a bioflavanoid of Vitamin C for life is extremely important for those with morgellons to avoid hemorhage. Especially if one has high blood pressure! I can't stress this enough! Also, the Hazel Parcells radiation soak is important for those with morgellons and based on my experience. It will help greatly with EMF issues as well and one of the reasons why morgellons makes one feel ill. It's used by Dr. Loyd to lower the radiation score for those that test high from the Energetic test. To do the Hazel Parvells radiation soak "Run a bath tub of water as hot as can be tolerated. Add one pound of baking soda and one pound of salt. Sea salt, Celtic salt, or Real Salt are ideal. Soak in the solution until the water cools off." It will also help with chemical toxicity too. Some with extreme issues here may feel like a popped balloon after their first bath and may need help getting out of the bath.
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Post by fatbob on Jan 7, 2014 17:52:17 GMT -5
I think Bartonella may be the root of this - I suspect a form with manipulated dna, used for psycho and bio physics, thus all military exposed intentionally, consequence is patient is given cipro, yet doesn't kill off within the nervous system, knocks it back, so it comes back with a vengence, and is exacerbated by cipro's already negative effects on nervous system. You all may note, gws like symptoms are so common these days, from increased sleepy arms and feet among many to occasional, odd gi difficulties, to cognitive decline issues (increases in Alzheimer's), etc. Could we all be part of a big, little bio experiment? Is gws observations just a prelude to the the 40 million targeted us citizens? btw, that so called hack at target, well now you see, this is what was being revealed in that media frenzy hit. It's that twisted and so much more?
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 7, 2014 18:26:52 GMT -5
I think what you posted to me sunk in subliminally. I have big time brain fog oftentimes, Hi Kritts, I know exactly what you mean. I've had that for almost the past twenty years where even the easiest to understand things were almost impossible for me. It wasn't until about 2 years ago that I focused on inhibiting prions that everything came together for me. Even with so many other major issues that most people would find debilitating according to the energetic test that I posted of myself, it was the prions that was what was so horrible to deal with. Then about a year ago someone asked me to look into morgellons for them as they had a severe problem. I knew I had morgellons but had no idea that my extremely severe prion issue was also linked with the morgellons issue I had and I eventually put them both together through research and experiments and found that the morgellons fibers can be inhibited by inhibiting prions. And once one stops treating for prions, the prion score will go up fairly quick. Add in chronic fatigue to the mess and it gets pretty hard to deal with.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 8, 2014 12:14:20 GMT -5
JDP7100 , I do use Usnea in the protocol. There are a lot of organic acids in the protocol. I thought looking at Bovine digital Dermatitis itself my be helpful; www.urmc.rochester.edu/profiles/display/123088 "DICHELOBACTER NODOSUS and TREPONEMA are the most commonly associated causative agents for this mixed bacterial infection disease." TREPONEMA is a syphilis type spirochete and DICHELOBACTER NODOSUS is responsible for something called "foot rot" My emphasis in creating the protocol was to do everything i could to move forward and not do anything to move backward in health. I ruled out synthetic ABX for reasons already discussed.The Vetranarians are treating the BDD with tetracycline and penicillin with limited results.. In my protocol I use Moringa which is the best source of Amino acids you can get. It has all 9 essential ones and 20 total in a very bioavalable format. Here is an interesting article; "Natural amino acids preferable to antibiotics for treating infections, says study" www.naturalnews.com/032825_amino_acids_antibiotics.html#"However, a research scientist from the Fraunhofer Institute for Cell Therapy and Immunology IZI in Leipzig, Germany, has discovered that simple, natural amino acids work better than antibiotics at treating infections, and they do not cause harm to healthy cells in the body." This makes sense when you consider Carnicom was pushing NAC as the precursor to Glutathione, However some people were taking large doses of NAC and were writing that stuff was coming out of their skin. What is also interesting is that from considering MD in the prion framework then these researchers have made an amino acid connection. www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/vaccine62703.cfm"In their study, Cashman and his colleagues examined the role of chemical groups in amino acids, which are called side chains. "We wanted to see whether there were side chains accessible on abnormal prions that were not accessible on the normal protein. We hypothesized that in a normal prion protein, there will be side chains buried in the interior of the molecule. When the protein converts to the abnormal form, we thought that some of these side chains would then be exposed on the molecular surface. We discovered that the newly exposed side chains of abnormal prions include a sequence composed of three amino acids - tyrosine, tyrosine and arginine (Tyr-Tyr-Arg). By raising antibodies against the Tyr-Tyr-Arg amino acid sequence, the immune system became able to recognize the abnormal prion as an invader and attack it." So perhaps the full compliment of organic and Amino acids in the protocol somehow stimulate the immune system to act against those infective prions. I did see lesions that I had been dealing with for some time heal up and some strange looking black grey plastic stuff come out of them, that took about a month. www.researchmoringa.com/18_Amino_Acids.htmlWell you gotta get lucky sometimes.....................
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Post by DonZ on Jan 8, 2014 12:29:35 GMT -5
www.researchmoringa.com/18_Amino_Acids.html"Tyrosine is a factor in regulation endocrine hormonal function and structurally is a component in most of the proteins in the body." "Arginine – plays an important role in cell division, the healing of wounds, removing ammonia from the body, immune function, and the release of hormones. It has been shown in studies to cause the release of the growth hormones considered necessary for muscle growth and tissue repair, decreasing healing time. Arginine is a precursor for the production of nitric oxide and is related to treating erectile dysfunction and providing cardiovascular benefits (lowering blood pressure) as it relaxes smooth muscle, acts as a vasodilator and increases blood flow."
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Post by DonZ on Jan 8, 2014 12:52:06 GMT -5
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 10, 2014 2:24:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the info DonZ. There is definitely an amino acid issue with morgellons based on Clifford Carnicom's research and this quote in your post is interesting:
"We discovered that the newly exposed side chains of abnormal prions include a sequence composed of three amino acids - tyrosine, tyrosine and arginine (Tyr-Tyr-Arg). By raising antibodies against the Tyr-Tyr-Arg amino acid sequence, the immune system became able to recognize the abnormal prion as an invader and attack it."
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Post by DonZ on Jan 10, 2014 2:39:18 GMT -5
Well the article "Do Prions Exist?" reminds us that they are hypothetical. But from a bacterial standpoint the amino acid approach to MD deserves consideration.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 10, 2014 9:36:26 GMT -5
I thought the article "Do Prions Exist? that gives two highly qualified opinions on that hypothesis is important to consider here; www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/madcow/prions.htmlRobert A. Somerville BBsrc & MRC Neuropathogenesis Unit, Institute for Animal Health, Edinburgh. "Conclusion Overall I think the existing data about T.S.E. diseases and their causal agents are best explained by proposing that a nucleic acid or some other informational molecule does carry all the information required by their agents. The prion hypothesis does not adequately address the question of how all this information can be encoded. Although a nucleic acid has not been found, nor is their direct evidence that one exists, this situation can be explained by conventional biology. The nucleic acid could be a part of a virus, or an informational molecule, presumably nucleic acid, could be protected by PrP, a virino. Much information is required by the different T.S.E. strains. A nucleic acid is the only type of molecule which we know could carry such information." David C. Bolton, Ph.D. Department of Molecular Biology, New York State Institute for Basic Research; "Conclusion The protein-only hypothesis remains controversial because it breaks new conceptual ground. Those who have worked in this field under other paradigms (like the virus or virino hypotheses) are reluctant to accept this new paradigm. Scientists from other fields are more receptive to this hypothesis, however, and thus it has gained broad support. This hypothesis best explains all of the observations about these agents and the diseases they cause. If at some point it fails to do so, the hypothesis will need to be revised or rejected in favor of a better hypothesis. That is the nature of science." So when elevating conjecture about weather or not something is real and trying to make that an integral part of what seems to be a scientific approach we can't forget that prions are only conceptual at this point. From a standpoint of what is practical I would suggest to anyone actually trying to treat their MD that organic acids and amino acids offer the best results from whatever way you chose to frame it.
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Post by kritters on Jan 10, 2014 16:59:37 GMT -5
I think Bartonella may be the root of this - I suspect a form with manipulated dna, used for psycho and bio physics, thus all military exposed intentionally, consequence is patient is given cipro, yet doesn't kill off within the nervous system, knocks it back, so it comes back with a vengence, and is exacerbated by cipro's already negative effects on nervous system. You all may note, gws like symptoms are so common these days, from increased sleepy arms and feet among many to occasional, odd gi difficulties, to cognitive decline issues (increases in Alzheimer's), etc. Could we all be part of a big, little bio experiment? Is gws observations just a prelude to the the 40 million targeted us citizens? btw, that so called hack at target, well now you see, this is what was being revealed in that media frenzy hit. It's that twisted and so much more? Hello Fat Bob and thanks for your input here. This interaction with our new members is really getting juicey!!! Kritters
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Post by skyship on Jan 11, 2014 0:18:11 GMT -5
Upping this past the BS forum disrupters
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Post by skyship on Jan 11, 2014 2:46:31 GMT -5
Updating
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Post by DonZ on Jan 12, 2014 9:21:51 GMT -5
Taking into account when someone has 7.466 posts then it appears that they see themselves as the forum. The only valid info can be agreeing with them. Of course this relentless stream of gibberish has yielded no tangible results other than to make that poster feel smart.
That was their attitude since my first post, they even had the rude nerve to post pronunciation guidelines for me.
Organic acids, Amino Acids, cure MD. I wouldn't waste your time with NAC though you need all the basic ones in thresh hold doses.
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Post by kritters on Jan 12, 2014 17:43:16 GMT -5
Don,
Okay, so here I am, now thoroughly checking out your protocol. The really cool thing is that you aren't trying to sell something with it. You are giving it away to help other people.
I have one question about cilantro for you. it is a known chelator (although recent information says it's not really that strong) What are your thoughts about heavy metals and Lyme? I believe heavy metals allow the pathogens to proliferate, as they supposedly feed them. I went to my biological dentist to get rid of the 3 mercury amalgam fillings I had and ignorantly took a handful of chlorella (chelator) that morning. I had humongous heart palpitations in the dentist chair for over an hour. Then I found out that if you have mercury fillings, the chelators release the vapors into the system, recirculating the mercury. This affects the heart, obviously.
thanks, Kritts
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Post by DonZ on Jan 12, 2014 18:22:06 GMT -5
Klinghardt says the microbes are attracted to people with heavy metal toxicity, but then he wants people to paint their houses with special paint too. Yes cilantro is a good chelator of HM under some circumstances. I use it in the protocol not only because it binds heavy metals but also because it readily crosses the blood brain barrier and a lot of the herx issues are mental so it helps there. I read similar issues with having mercury amalgam removed, It can cause toxicity problems. My heart raced like crazy during times of trying to treat this stuff. The pattern I saw was that when I was creating a lot of toxins from treatment then my heart rate went up. But it also went back down after that herx was over. Something I also went through is that I coughed up stuff for 2 weeks straight from clearing an infection in the bronchial area. The heart also gets infected. Just about everything does. Bartonella infetcs the heart too and I just saw this recent article. www.mvtimes.com/2013/12/24/cdc-says-lyme-associated-3-sudden-heart-deaths-18444/the microbes infect the heart too. From my reading and talking with others on forums I would say the Amalgam issue is way over rated and when you get the infections out of your heart it will normalize. BTW the moringa in the protocol chelates just as good as Chlorella.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 12, 2014 18:26:13 GMT -5
It can also be found here; lyme-morgellons.com/In case you have questions there is the "Contact" page.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 12, 2014 18:33:12 GMT -5
Kritts; One of the things I liked about Jenna's site is that she was unbiased in the sense that she was presenting all the possibilities. One thing I didn't like about it was all the sales junk. I already dealt with a bunch of those people and if I had a sh*t list they certainly would be on it. So that was part of the motivation for setting up that site.
So were going though this planetary genetic Armageddon and these vulture profiteers rush in for the kill.........it really makes me disgusted.
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Post by kritters on Jan 12, 2014 19:05:05 GMT -5
thanks, Don!
You've given me lots of homework to do in reading and assimilating so much new info. Love it.
I already started to look for associations between agro and Alzheimers and Lyme tonight. I took today guilt free to research anything I wanted. I have started a word document trying to see the connection, and there are definitely connections. I want to bring up questions here about what I think to all of you.
Not to jump the gun, but in your links, I am seeing something that relates to my questions already. Inflammation, TREM1, Myelocyte, Alzheimers. the mutation in TREM1 preventing prevention of inflammation.
I believe inflammation is huge key.
thanks again! Kritters
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Post by DonZ on Jan 12, 2014 19:33:02 GMT -5
When you consider just how profoundly the genome adjusts to it's environment it makes you wonder about the validity of "mutations" in general. Mutations were considered abnormal when the world had a stable environment. Are "mutations" becomming the norm? The genome responds substantially to toxicity and we live in a toxic world. natureinstitute.org/txt/st/mqual/genome_remodeling.htm#fluid_genome1"Where is randomness? All these revelations about coherent genomic change have prompted University of Chicago geneticist James Shapiro to speak of “natural genetic engineering”. “We have progressed from the Constant Genome, subject only to random, localized changes at a more or less constant mutationlink rate, to the Fluid Genome, subject to episodic, massive and non-random reorganizations capable of producing new functional architectures” (Shapiro 1997). Crucially, “genetic change is almost always the result of cellular action on the genome” You can map a genome but that map becomes dated and corrupted as a point of reference based on our ever changing bioterrain. Kritters as far as inflammtion is concerned this is the cat's meow. www.rain-tree.com/sangre.htm#.UtMx055dVp4
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Post by kritters on Jan 12, 2014 19:45:18 GMT -5
Don,
I really consider 'mutations' a product and result of engineering and toxins. I guess there might be a fine line between mutations and morphing, but that's gotta be really tough to discern, right? One is caused and the other is deliberate and natural progression.
so, inflammation is just the immune system's mechanism to fight invaders. (I've purchased some of Raintree's products, specifically anti-fungals or anti-parasitics a few years ago. I never really understood how inflammation is bad if it's supposed to help against invasive organisms. Unless it's fighting invisible invaders (stealth pathogens?) I will check that out, thanks!
the key, in simple terms, I think is that newly created organisms, designed to evade our immune systems are the goal. Well, I have faith in our immune systems. I think eventually it will work out. (Pollyanna)
Kritts
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Post by skyship on Jan 12, 2014 22:13:18 GMT -5
DonZ,
Why the attacks? I know who you target, so get off it. If we are to work together, then we will get well. I looked at this in books before the Internet. I am well educated on info that pertains to genomics, molecules, bio, geo, physics as well. I do not appreciate you attacking me. We are all researching this. If you continue, I will no longer put info out there for people to digest, consider or throw out. I have been researching this for a very long time. I get no rewards for doing this, I stay up nights when we have a lead on some recent info that is released on Morgellons. I am no dummy. I have a hard time putting it in words because Morgellons is not your ordinary Syndrome. According to post above yours I had, 7,466 and that is not true, I have more than 19,000. and if you include Lymebustsers, I have even more, and if you include NUSPA, who kicked me off because I asked some pertinent questions, then I have spent much time, I receive nothing for this research. I have devoted my life to this, but, I am beginning to see that some people will never appreciate that. And that is okay. If people are healed from an unknown cause of Morgellons, than so be it. I maintain, by using actually a protocol from an herbal expert on LB. And it works. There are hard times, but, I know things only stay in one place for about 3 days, then it moves. So, I maintain a sense of control and know what herbal, natural products to use. It is not perfect, but, it keeps me alive and I do no more excessive damage by using products I am not sure of. I update the forum because of all the products put on there, that DO NOT PERTAIN To Morgellons. The moderater will not remove the crazy spam, which is used as disinfo shill tactic. Why the animosity toward me? I would like answers. Otherwise, I will remove myself from this board. So, I write gibberish. Do you understand what they are actually studying in the Universities now? And where they are going with this? So, I see I am just a gibberish maker........ Well, if you understood what is showing up in labs and clinics and that folks are treated as dogs, as Morgies are, LB folks etc. You would see that the integration of these new products are causing new syndromes, for which old names are being used to treat with drugs that are life threatening. My knowledge has been accumulative. I have learned as I looked and was trying to get feedback from those who may understand, or if they don't, they ask good questions. So, I know I have been discredited. I really do not mind, because that is what those who will not investigate further, do. I have nothing to gain by what I post other than to help others discover for themselves the diverse products used causing these diverse symptoms of Morgellons.' Make that 7,467 final post~! Take care all, Skyship
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Post by DonZ on Jan 12, 2014 22:29:54 GMT -5
Kritts;
What I was trying to do is to put all this genome discussion in context, from a perspective that is result driven. The context I think is valid is that when considering the relatively new foundational principle of the fluid genome you should probably file any further discussions in the entertainment category because 1000 geneticists wouldn't figure out all the variables in a thousand years and all the flowery language is meaningless.
The immune system is complex and has many components. I know some of them. The macrophages are known as the king of the phagocytes, the t-cells are created in your thymus (right above your infected heart) , the b-cells are created in the long bones, the brain does stuff like create fevers to cook out pathogens and there are many proteins involved made from cellular DNA sections. One way the microbes have evolved is to directly infect the immune system cells. Your body was never designed for that. You can have faith in your immune system but I'm here to tell you it ain't gonna happen. Your immune system can assist in fighting these types of infections but that is all it is capable of doing. You need an artificial immune system that isn't biological, that is one thing the protocol does.
Inflammation is basically swelling, you read a lot about MTHFR gene deficiency causing a detox issue but it is a major flaw in understanding. It's not a MTHFR gene deficiency at all , it is Anemia and a Glutathione deficiency. Internal swelling causes detox issues.
I explain all of this in my article and on my site so no point for me to write it again. Contact me if you have any ?
~d
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Post by kritters on Jan 12, 2014 23:19:49 GMT -5
Sky, I can't believe that was directed at you. when I read that post, I thought, "could it be me?" then I realized I only had over a thousand dumb lame ass posts.
No way would anyone refer that statement to someone who has been the foundation behind this research. You have contributed more than anyone can imagine. You are the backbone of this forum, brilliant and indefatigable. You have been so generous to me and so many people here, answering questions and looking up everything anyone posts to see if you can contribute merit.
Please do not go anywhere. No one has the power to discredit you. Only you can allow that.
love and forever respect and appreciation, Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 13, 2014 0:05:01 GMT -5
I'm very upset right not and will not be able to sleep. It's 12 am and i should have been in bed by now.
Don Z, if you were referencing Sky in your post, please come forward and apologize. I'm sure you didn't realize what you were saying because if you did, you obviously have not read any of her incredible research.
Out of all her posts, if you read them, you very well might have seen some similar conclusions after all here presented research.
You could be such a great addition to this forum, but if you're dismissing Sky, no way is that acceptable.
Kritters
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