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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 13, 2014 2:20:54 GMT -5
DonZ,
It was a couple years ago that I realized I had a major prion issue and suffered with it for a very long time. Symptoms all similar to Parkinson's and would probably be diagnosed as such with severe memory loss and cancer tumors among other problems.
It was a very long and hard road for me to get where I am. It wasn't until someone asked me to help them with morgellons even though I knew I had a problem, I did not devote much time to the issue. After lots of research and experimentation I found skyships information. One old thread from skyship titled really started the ball rolling, “It appears the yeast prion and its amyloid forming abilities are at the core of this phenomena we call Morgellons.”
If it wasn't for skyship with that thread as well as many of his other threads regarding prions, I never would have found what I believe to be the best way to target morgellons (viruses and prions). I believe skyship's information is invaluable and is the #1 source of information regarding morgellons.
Skyship posts some real gems and have always read them with great interest.
Here are some. Without the below information, I would have been lost in understanding morgellons and never would have created such an effective protocol for myself. Basically reminding myself that I have to target prions everyday and occasionally viruses to keep my symptoms at bay with my EMF devices. Devices that I've experimented with and created for many years. My microscope examinations also confirm that these methods inhibit morgellons fibers. Skyship deserves a lot of credit in my recovery!
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Post by kritters on Jan 13, 2014 3:13:50 GMT -5
Jdp,
You are a gentleman(or woman) and awesome person. Thank you for stepping up.
have you posted your protocol?
Also, I realize I should have been directing my prion info to you these last few posts.
I hope Sky does not leave here. If she does, I'm gone as well.
Kritters
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Post by DonZ on Jan 13, 2014 8:27:15 GMT -5
jdp7100Well I already posted that prions are only conceptual . It is your choice to combine conceptual information with your observations to come up with a "working model". That is your choice. A lot of things effect MD so I'm happy for whatever progress you have made. It's always nice to keep your disease at bay. The reality is that these conjecture based theories are very detrimental to the credibility of the MD community. Taking into account that everyone has behavior issues from their childhood that turn into psychiatric issues when the brain becomes saturated with neurotoxins. This "morgboard" unfortunately attracts people that are here for reasons that aren't rational. You can follow anyone to the ends of the earth, regardless of how that effects your objectivity, or sign on to this false narative that on careful examination makes no sense at all, that is a personal choice. But every day you still are limited by your disease. I didn't come here to impress a few theorists. I have a bigger agenda and if a few theorists fall through the cracks then I can't help that. What has come out of this place?, this MRG , I haven't come here for any credible information, apparently they post anything. My focus was result oriented.These places make MD sufferers look nuts and I really wish they would exercise some judgement there. There are no good websites , The CEHF site is an incoherent mess but at least they make an effort to stay rational despite the fact that I had to down right harass most of the officers and researchers into possibly getting off of their lazy as*es and actually do something. They know me well and I'm not done with them yet. I'm doing this because their are a lot of uneducated people depending on them. Yes I've corresponded with Wymore, Sapi, Mayne and Casey and I've let them know in no uncertain terms how disappointed with them and they better get their sh*t together and actually DO SOMETHING. It's about this , you can write this unsubstantiated gibberish for the rest of your lives but nothing is going to change unless you actually do something. I'm Doing Something, every single day..........................What have you done for me lately? Good bye- Good luck. ~d And Yes; it's free, No I don't sell ANYTHING. lyme-morgellons.com
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Post by kritters on Jan 13, 2014 10:47:12 GMT -5
It's never okay to hurt people's feelings and be rude. Thanks for your protocol and hopefully people will be helped by it. regards, Kritters
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 13, 2014 15:03:17 GMT -5
Hi kritters,
I'll post my protocol in a new thread when when I'm better able to. Hopefully this week. I definitely don't believe my protocol will work for others as it has for me. The reason is in serious ailments such as morgellons, the person suffering is not just suffering from one issue that needs to be addressed such as say in theory prions and/or morgellons fibers but multiple issues and most likely different issues than what I'm going through. But I'll try to cover as much as what I've learned based on research and experimentation.
DonZ,
No amount of harrassing a group or person is beneficial. It does not further a group, help with information nor does it help anyone except for the person releasing all their negativity onto others. There is certainly a karmic backlash for what your intentions are and will not communicate further.
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Post by kritters on Jan 13, 2014 16:58:30 GMT -5
Hi jdp,
That will be great. Thank you!!!
Kritts
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Post by skyship on Jan 15, 2014 16:58:35 GMT -5
this is a good protocol, but, please check out the ingredients and know the dangers and that the herxs can be long. I believe there is good info here. Just check it out and become familiar with all the ingredients. If allergic to some things this would be a precaution. Anything pine related for me, is a danger zone. Some new allergies have surfaced. For some, this protocol may be a good one. I am not the authority here, just a researcher, looking at all angles. Some may not make sense, use your judgement, please. I will try to be more precise in the future. I may have done what Don Z claimed, but, we all do that at times. I am only human, angry at this Morgellons manifestation and trying to discover its source. So, thanks all for the support, but, DonZ has some good points here as well. I just wanted to work with him, but, that was not to be. Tally Ho~! on we we go~! By the way they do build skyships~! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyship_600Skyship
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Post by kritters on Jan 15, 2014 19:38:43 GMT -5
Great, Sky! On we go!
It would have been good if Don stayed because I also think he would have a lot to offer. So much can be accomplished if we work together.
@don (if he's reading), I said I would follow Sky to the ends of the earth, meaning that because she looks into everything and keeps a way open mind, all sorts of information can result. In researching this disease, and reading what she and Lilsis, and others have posted here (all above my head), I have really learned much.
You can't say, "I'm cured" because of this or that. Frankly, I'm pretty much cured as well, except for the brain fog and depression at times, but not all the time, and I eat extremely healthy. I take many supplements which can most likely accomplish what some of your protocol is, but I fully intend to check out your ingredients as well. I'm sure I speak for everyone who read your information in saying your generosity and knowledge is very much appreciated.
I do not thnk we all have the same thing. Therefore, I will keep on learning and reading and it can only be good to increase my knowledge for the future of my health.
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 17, 2014 14:44:21 GMT -5
Since Don is unfortunately no longer here, I am going to just post this anyway.
He wrote: I read similar issues with having mercury amalgam removed, It can cause toxicity problems. My heart raced like crazy during times of trying to treat this stuff. The pattern I saw was that when I was creating a lot of toxins from treatment then my heart rate went up. But it also went back down after that herx was over.
This in response to my mentioning I thought chelating when you have mercury amalgams in your teeth actually can mobiize the mercury vapors into the bloodstream, causing palpitations.
Although I'm taking that comment that he doesn't think what I said has any merit, 'stuff' he took might have had a chelating affect, and therefore the palpitations could very well have happened because of it. Of course, the toxins resulting from the herxing could very well be affecting the reaction as well, but to exclude what I presented is wrong. (I didn't have the palps while having the mercury removed from my teeth because she is a biological dentist and took the necessary precautions). They occurred because I took TOO MANY (chlorella pills) the MORNING of my appointment. I don't think it mattered where I was at the time the mercury vapors kicked in to affect my heart. Later when I discussed this with her (my dentist), she agreed with me and said that the mercury is a very complex issue most people do not fully understand, but she agreed that it's useless and probably more harmful to chelate if you have mercury amalgams because the vapors which are mobilized into the bloodstream contain the mercury.
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Post by kritters on Jan 17, 2014 15:50:39 GMT -5
"Inflammation is basically swelling, you read a lot about MTHFR gene deficiency causing a detox issue but it is a major flaw in understanding. It's not a MTHFR gene deficiency at all , it is Anemia and a Glutathione deficiency. Internal swelling causes detox issues. " Inflammation is not basically SWELLING. That statement sounds like it came from someone who has no background of information at all, and I'm surprised Don said this. I am in the process of RE listening to the book "Grain Brain" by Dr. David Perimutter www.perlhealth.com/about-dr-perlmutter/ a board certified Neurologist (read the link to see all else). and he stresses inflammation heavily in disease. In my humble research and understanding, imflammation is the body's immune response to any attacking pathogenic entity, or toxic substance. Prolonged inflammation is damaging to health. Kritters
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 17, 2014 16:17:22 GMT -5
Inflammation that goes on for a long-time can also be a precursor to cancer. "One of the biggest risk factors for liver, colon or stomach cancer is chronic inflammation of those organs, often caused by viral or bacterial infections. A new study from MIT offers the most comprehensive look yet at how such infections provoke tissues into becoming cancerous." New MIT study offers comprehensive look at chemical andgenetic changes that occur as inflammation progresses to cancer. www.pnas.org/content/106/4/1027.full?sid=d9a67004-9907-4f70-90f0-fb0888b2e3bbFrom what I understand those with morgellons being prion issues, hemorrhagic issues and cancer issues. Hemorrhagic issues needing rutin as well as making sure getting enough copper. Prion issues being once morgellons advances to a large enough problem becomes Parkinson's like, ALS like , Alzheimer's like symptoms. ALS such as this = curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2141222 I have the Parkinson's like symptoms as well as cancer sarcoma/BY and I'm sure there are many other morgellons with Alzheimer's like symptoms as well. And family member with high amount of mogellons lesions had massive hemorrhagic stroke. Needing rutin to help prevent future hemorrhagic stroke.
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Post by kritters on Jan 17, 2014 17:41:32 GMT -5
jdp, now this is what I'm talkin' about!!!! Thanks!
Did you get the chance to check out Grain Brain? He associates gluten with inflammation, MS and Parkinson (neurological) disorders. I downloaded it on my iphone and am listening for the second time to absorb.
I would not be surprised if the wheat, barley, rye, kamut, and a few other gluten based foods are not at the bottom of the apex, inclusive of all else involved you, Sky and Don have written about. Sometimes there can be just one thing triggering all kinds of catastrophic situations and they count on the general pubic to eat away all the crap in the processed foods they consume. But to blatantly put the diseases out there (MD, Bartonella, Lyme) that will take hold BECAUSE of these other things compromising our immune systems is criminal.
Glad you're here!
Kritts
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 18, 2014 12:04:43 GMT -5
Hi kritters, Yes, no doubt that wheat/gluten is harmful in a lot of parts of the world/western world. Sourdough bread is generally a safe alternative though due to how it's made. An extremely high percentage with lyme disease also are intolerant to gluten/wheat. Some may be so sensitive to it that they need 100% avoidance of gluten which is found in many processed foods that people don't realize. www.celiac.com/articles/182/1/Unsafe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Unsafe-Ingredients/Page1.htmlSome may have so much of a sensitivity to it that they believe they are suffering heavily from lyme disease when in fact a lot of symptoms are mostly coming from gluten intolerance. Many years ago had to use that list in link above when I had an extreme allergy. Now it's moderate and also shown as moderate from my energetic testing I posted before. Interestingly, Dr. Shoemaker has mentioned that once lyme disease is under control, gluten issues are less problematic and I agree with. In addition, if one is sensitive to wheat/gluten, there almost always in general a casein/dairy sensitivity as well. Unless drinking from A1 cows, some parts of the world have them goats milk may be a safe alternative for many. A2 cows are found in the US and are problematic. www.georgetowner.com/articles/2012/jul/24/cow-milk-it-does-not-body-good/In addition, mycoplasma paratuberculosis is found in something like 3% or so of all milk samples. It survives pasteurization. But with Morgellons, I think of things a little different regarding gluten and other problematic foods. It may just be me but I have a hard time with most foods as they cause me great pain/inflammation. I actually think of the stomach and other areas of the body having a very slow healing. That there may be stomach issues due to morgellons such as the villi in the stomach being harmed. Traditional methods of closing up a non healing wound such as say cayenne pepper or LLLT or PEMF or similar methods do not seem to do much good even though it should work and work for other people who don't have a major problem with morgellons. However, there are different EMF methods used for closing non healing wound which I'm still putting together my protocol and hopefully with pictures showing non healing lesions being closed.
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Post by Morg33 on Jan 19, 2014 14:34:17 GMT -5
Got to agree with kritt....this has been a very interesting board. Sky you have my undivided attention and utmost respect. More of the same, may your tribe multiply.....etc.. Your insight and information is or has been invaluable. Wish Donz would have stuck around. I do think with everyone providing info, insights, knowledge, we will find an answer. Kritt always love your questions, enthusiasm and mediation skills ..lol. Jdp kudos glad to see more peeps coming into the fold. Aqt always wise. Thank you to old members and new members giving insight. Sky in an old post you said it like you gain a few steps then have to backtrack.....absolutely correct. You are on the right path! I have read and read and followed and as we all suffer together this thing of ours, which will eventually come to the forefront of everybody. Frustrations show as we have seen. It becomes harder and harder to trust and know who is trying to help and who is trying to lead astray. No accusation meant. Just feelings from my own experiences. Sky your knowledge and courage just astound me. At first a little intimidating, lol, but just amazing. Your timeline of posts and topics should be a guide to others just starting to continue their search for the truth and answers, eventually a solution. It seems if everyone does their own research into their own unique sitiuations, and then shared anything different or any new theory they might have, it may lead to a better understanding. It just might surprise people that there are others who have the same conclusion. Sorry for long the long post but just had to say my peace. Don thank you for your valuable information and all the time you devoted to finding a protocol . I totally respect you for sharing and not trying to sell anything. This is the best site (source) for "legitimate" information and would hope not to lose anybody along the way to dissention. "Divide and conquer" remember that old saying? Well that's it's. I too would follow Sky as I believe she is on the right path just need to connect it all. As for me I will continue to follow and share my information when the time is right. Use the information given as a guide or reference to other tangents it all leads back to the same point as Sky and others have shown. Agree to disagree? Sure just remember we are stuck with this no matter what. One thing is for sure it's time to get back to basics, why people are in such a hurry to become machine as a matter of convenience is beyond me. Time to wake others up! Keep your head to the Sky....
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Post by DonZ on Jan 19, 2014 15:06:18 GMT -5
If you want to cure your MD. You need organic and Amino acids , it's as simple as that. When you get the right amount for the right duration it will. I'm not saying it will be easy , it depends on your co-infections and your disease state (bioterrain). You don't need to be "on the right path" Here it is. Also any philosophy that says starve what your body needs because the microbes also feed off of it is flawed. For example people need Gluten, Lipids and Sterols, it's a major thing that make your cells tick. Unless you are absolutely sure that your allergic then good wheat without sugar in the recipe is good for you. Ezekial Bread Sour dough organic w/o sugar, etc. I wish I could get just one person to try what I'm posting here. The difference is this, I'm not on any kind of "Path", I was but I found it. A lot of people are carrying around Lyme and even MD and don't even know it, when your body loses it's ability to defend itself then you become symptomatic. The modern problem is the food and it's lack of nutrition. You need wheat, you need beef. You need this stuff; gerlings.faculty.mjc.edu/219ch5lipids.pdfBut of course you can't get past lyme or MD by "starving " the infection when you are starving yourself too. Just think of any glucose these foods produce as the cheese in the mouse trap. The protocol I posted is the mouse trap and it kills the MD infection. Hi Kritts. Yes they are organic acids too.
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Post by Morg33 on Jan 19, 2014 17:46:55 GMT -5
Welcome back Don!..... I am a true student of knowledge and open to any and all information. Your information and protocol on "path"ogenic-synergy very much appreciated. I Compliment you sir. We are all on the same "path" which is a very real and debilitating disease (condition) that is both harmful and deadly. Your views and research are appreciated and respected. That is a compliment. Any choice of words or phrases that are incorrect, my apologies. The reality is we are all on the same path,road,trail,walkway,driveway,parkway,freeway,etc.....which is this condition. So, please! keep posting your findings,results,protocol, etc....so others such as myself may benefit. Getting the last word in and other such tactics, doesnt help or do anybody any good. My apologies to everyone for taking up space and time to share non-helpful information. "Everybody" keep learning and living. "keep your head to the Sky." ( a song by the way. No hidden meaning or anything, I hope nobody takes offense for my use.)
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Post by DonZ on Jan 19, 2014 20:33:38 GMT -5
Morg 33; Sorry If i came off a bit feisty. I just get frustrated. Yes I read about special morgellons and Lyme diets and now understand that these people are shortchanging themselves. As we have read these microbes feed off of glucose. Glucose is produced by the liver dependent on what you eat. I viewed this video "sugar, the bitter truth" www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM When you drink a beer it's equivelant to drinking a CokaCola for the amount of Glucose produced. There was a point where I was pretty depressed and a beer now and then helped take the edge off the MD depression. So what I noticed when I had a beer is that I herxed mildly directly afterwards. Meaning I killed something. There is a concept used in the protocol "the arificial immune system" , so the glucose turned out to be the cheese in the mouse trap here. I drank about a six pack a week and iot didn't have any noticable effect on the progress I was making. I still recovered. You need good grains , It's the sugar you want to eliminate.
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Post by kritters on Jan 20, 2014 1:38:54 GMT -5
Thank you, Morg33! Glad to have you here! You're not "taking up space" at all!!! Thanks for all your positive comments.
Welcome back, Don! I thought beer didn't turn into sugar! I looked up the glycemic index once and it was low, but you know how that goes. I also read articles saying the beer gut is really gluten gut. As far as glucose being the cheese in the mousetrap, would that be good to have at the same time as the protocol ingredients to lure them and then zap them? (apologize if you already explained anything about that).
JDP, I saw that recently that sourdough bread is ok for gluten sensitive people. Don't understand why, though. Do you know? BTW, how soon before we see your protocol?
thanks to all, Kritts
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Post by DonZ on Jan 20, 2014 7:55:46 GMT -5
Kritts; Your not going to be able to take everything out of your body that the microbes live on without adversely effecting your own defenses. So you have to use different strategies. I know you will like this one because you get the Lyme disease conection, It's 3 parts but throughout this Pathologist/ Lyme disease expert, And I don't use that term lightly, explains the mechanics of DNA transfer between microbes in the wild. www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8tESJVvM88I think all alcohol turns to sugar quickly in the liver because it just molecularly lends itself to that metabolism.The "gluten gut" is a sign someone is not detoxing well. Alcoholics get all red looking. I think that is from all the inflammation they are inducing. lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/happy-ending-for-years-of-suffering-with-chronic-lyme-disease-and-morgellons/"As new immune system cells are created and red blood cell count goes up then those newly created cells would also become infected if their wasn’t in place the artificial immune system of the herbal tinctures. When there is any attempt to migrate to another cell that causes the pathogens to be killed. Eventually the limit on their pleomorphic abilities and the use of sanctuary sites will become limited and overrun by the herbs abilities. Many components in the herbs erode the efflux pumps over time and cause the infection inside the cells to be killed. This also results in cell death. However because of the artificial immune system the newly created cells won’t become infected. This causes a regeneration of the immune system so the natural immune system can assist the artificial immune system in removing the infections.. Once the Red Blood cell count is up then you will also start producing Glutathione. Detox pathways shut down from inflammation caused by not enough Glutathione. Inflammation is actually a symptom of a wound in the tissue and infections cause a "wound" by releasing irritating toxins. These toxins are neutralized in the body by glutathione and as inflamation subsides detox pathways function will return."
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Post by kritters on Jan 20, 2014 9:11:54 GMT -5
Don,
I'm so glad you returned to this forum. This was very gracious of you, and we really appreciate it.
I should have been showering for work, but listened to the first video of Dr. MacDonald. What a gem! I can't wait to listen to the rest tonight. If I could make a living researching, I'd jump on it.
This is just an immediate aside:
One thought I had while watching this was that I wonder (and seriously doubt) if Lyme is screened when people go to the hospital and need a blood transfusion. Not knowing the process by which they clean blood, I'm thinking that could possibly be a huge way it is transmitted and spread to a population.
thanks again, Kritts
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Post by Don Z on Jan 20, 2014 12:13:40 GMT -5
Yep, I'm pretty sure the blood supply has passed on a lot of stuff. The thing with Lyme is that it is complex and most doctors aren't prepared for that level. They want to be able to use their knowledge to diagnose you then they go look at something called "the clinicians guide to pharmaceutical medicines" and pick out something "appropriate". Because Lyme and MD are so complex interpreting the symptoms wil just about drive you nuts. Maybe what I posted above seems out of context. Most people will give up treating because they don't see any progress based on how they interpret their symptoms.
I sent this to someone I'm in contact with today to help them understand better just something as simple as the chills. Because everything people think about healing , like with the flu, non of that applies to these types of infections. It's like a big rubber band , you get sick, you get better, you get sick again and then better again, you have to map the long term trend.
"When you get the chills it is because your body's energy is low. The energy is made in the red blood cells, it's ATP adrenosine triphosphate. When ATP is low you might struggle to stay warm. Moringa causes red blood cell growth so why the chills? When the die off gets to a level where the endotoxins are killing red blood cells faster than you can grow them then there is a shortage. Your brain is saying hurry up make more RBC's so it's trying to keep up. It won't be able to keep up though until a certain point. The point is when the infection is reduced enough so that RBC production is on track."
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Post by DonZ on Jan 20, 2014 15:09:03 GMT -5
Kritts; This is some good info too, don't mean to keep you up late............................. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15979028"Recent evidence has shown that d-amino acids are present in animals and humans in high concentrations" www.sciencemag.org/content/328/5978/627.abstract"D-Amino Acids Trigger Biofilm Disassembly" "D-amino acids are produced by many bacteria and, thus, may be a widespread signal for biofilm disassembly." The difference between L-Amino acids and D-amino acids is that they are isomers. Chemically the same but molecular structurally different. The peptidoglycan cell walls of bacteria are actually rich in d-amino acids, not L-amino acids.The prevalence of L-amino acids in biological systems is a quirk of our evolutionary history, there's no reason D-amino acids wouldn't work chemically, but once early life forms started building proteins out of L-amino acids, L-amino acids became abundant an it became selectively advantageous to use L-amino acids because then you could use the amino acids you obtained by eating someone else. BTW The D- amino acids are very often sugars. www.naturalnews.com/032825_amino_acids_antibiotics.htmlwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjgq6-5uDtY
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Post by skyship on Jan 20, 2014 15:37:05 GMT -5
DonZ,
When you went through your protocol, did you expell massive amounts of filaments?
Sky
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Post by skyship on Jan 20, 2014 15:49:51 GMT -5
I do not know if this applies, but, I did find this interesting pertaining to the TasA filament destruction. Pertaining to what you mentioned previously: "D-Amino Acids Trigger Biofilm Disassembly" "D-amino acids are produced by many bacteria and, thus, may be a widespread signal for biofilm disassembly In this article: D-Amino Acids Trigger Biofilm Disassembly ...."How do D-amino acids disassemble biofilms? D-amino acids did not inhibit growth (Fig. S6), nor did they inhibit the expression of the matrix operons epsA-O and yqxM-sipW-tasA (Fig. S7). D-amino acids are incorporated into the peptide side chains of peptidoglycan in place of the terminal D-alanine (9). Using 14C -D-tyrosine, we confirmed that the D-tyrosine (but not 14C -L-proline) was incorporated into the cell wall (Fig. S8), with incorporation commencing at day 3 (Fig. S9). Finally, and in keeping with the idea D-amino acids act via their incorporation into the wall, the effects of D-tyrosine and the D-amino acid mixture were prevented by D-alanine (Fig. 1K–L). We hypothesized that TasA fibers are anchored to the cell wall and that the incorporation of biofilm-disassembling D-amino acids into the cell wall might disengage the fibers from their anchor. ".... Image: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2921573/figure/F3/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2921573/TasA fibers?: This could be the connection to the amyloids? Amyloid Fibers Provide Structural Integrity to Bacillus subtilis Biofilms "Bacillus subtilis forms biofilms whose constituent cells are held together by an extracellular matrix. Previous studies have shown that the protein TasA and an exopolysaccharide are the main components of the matrix. Given the importance of TasA in biofilm formation, we characterized the physicochemical properties of this protein. We report that purified TasA forms fibers of variable length and 10–15 nm in width. Biochemical analyses, in combination with the use of specific dyes and microscopic analyses, indicate that TasA forms amyloid fibers. Consistent with this hypothesis, TasA fibers required harsh treatments (e.g., formic acid) to be depolymerized. When added to a culture of a tasA mutant, purified TasA restored wild-type biofilm morphology, indicating that the purified protein retained biological activity. We propose that TasA forms amyloid fibers that bind cells together in the biofilm. " www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/01/11/0910560107.abstractDo you see b. subtilis as a cure for the filaments? Or would this have been part of the creation of this monster? Sky
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Post by skyship on Jan 20, 2014 16:06:29 GMT -5
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Post by skyship on Jan 20, 2014 16:23:05 GMT -5
This sugar? Oligosaccharides? does not digest well. fructose? High-Fructose Corn Syrup High-fructose corn syrup, or HFCS, is a combination of sugars, fructose and glucose. Foodmakers use different proportions, such as 42, 55 and 90 percent fructose, depending on whether it's for soft drinks, bread or other processed goods. HFCS has been implicated in the epidemics of obesity, hypertension, diabetes, liver disease and kidney disease. However, HFCS has dominated the added sugar market because it's cheap and can be used for several purposes besides sweetening. It preserves, helps yeast ferment, browns and stabilizes taste across different temperatures. Because it's gotten such a bad rap, however, manufacturers are slowly abandoning it. Sales slumped 11 percent between 2003 and 2008. These oligomers? The new sugar on the block? FOS You might be seeing the term fructooligosaccharide show up more, along with new buzz terms like prebiotic. The root "oligo" means few, and saccharide means sugar, so quite literally FOS consist of a few chains of fructose molecules. FOS are starches that your body can't fully digest. Rather than provide you with calories, the undigested FOS in your food "feed" the bacteria in your gut. This makes it a prebiotic, which is not to be confused with probiotics, which are the bacteria themselves. You can eat FOS in whole foods, such as asparagus, Jerusalem artichoke, leeks, onions, burdock, chicory, dandelion and soybeans. www.livestrong.com/article/500849-high-fructose-corn-syrup-fructooligosaccharide/Oligomers form tau in amyloids. etc. I am trying to find the link between amyloid filaments and these sugars, if there is one. the Oligos
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Post by kritters on Jan 20, 2014 16:24:59 GMT -5
"When you get the chills it is because your body's energy is low. The energy is made in the red blood cells, it's ATP adrenosine triphosphate. When ATP is low you might struggle to stay warm. Moringa causes red blood cell growth so why the chills? When the die off gets to a level where the endotoxins are killing red blood cells faster than you can grow them then there is a shortage. Your brain is saying hurry up make more RBC's so it's trying to keep up. It won't be able to keep up though until a certain point. The point is when the infection is reduced enough so that RBC production is on track."
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Hey Don,
I look forward to staying up late with your information!
okay! YES! I always thought that chills were the attempt of the body to generate (energy) to heat up the blood to kill the invasive pathogens. what you're saying brings so much to light. Never knew the importance of RBC production.
So, this makes so much sense!!!
If all the energy is made in the red blood cells. So, what is inhibiting the RBC growth when it's needed at the cellular level to correct that?
Gotta reference and ask Sky here , because I think there was a lot of information about how chemtrails are affecting red blood cells. I know that (and this might be WAY WAY off) when i picked a lesion scab, the red sea was brought forth at amazing volume. Thought I would bleed to death. Here's where Sky can jump in here. (at LEAST).
This is so great!!!!!
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 20, 2014 16:28:02 GMT -5
AWESOME, SKY!
I was typing and didn't know you were posting!!! I feel like such a Pollyanna, but this interaction with Don and Jpd and you are what I've been hoping for. getting to the nitty gritty and workin' it!!!
Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jan 20, 2014 16:31:12 GMT -5
This sugar? Oligosaccharides? does not digest well. fructose? High-Fructose Corn Syrup High-fructose corn syrup, or HFCS, is a combination of sugars, fructose and glucose. Foodmakers use different proportions, such as 42, 55 and 90 percent fructose, depending on whether it's for soft drinks, bread or other processed goods. HFCS has been implicated in the epidemics of obesity, hypertension, diabetes, liver disease and kidney disease. However, HFCS has dominated the added sugar market because it's cheap and can be used for several purposes besides sweetening. It preserves, helps yeast ferment, browns and stabilizes taste across different temperatures. Because it's gotten such a bad rap, however, manufacturers are slowly abandoning it. Sales slumped 11 percent between 2003 and 2008. These oligomers? The new sugar on the block? FOS You might be seeing the term fructooligosaccharide show up more, along with new buzz terms like prebiotic. The root "oligo" means few, and saccharide means sugar, so quite literally FOS consist of a few chains of fructose molecules. FOS are starches that your body can't fully digest. Rather than provide you with calories, the undigested FOS in your food "feed" the bacteria in your gut. This makes it a prebiotic, which is not to be confused with probiotics, which are the bacteria themselves. You can eat FOS in whole foods, such as asparagus, Jerusalem artichoke, leeks, onions, burdock, chicory, dandelion and soybeans. www.livestrong.com/article/500849-high-fructose-corn-syrup-fructooligosaccharide/Oligomers form tau in amyloids. etc. I am trying to find the link between amyloid filaments and these sugars, if there is one. the Oligos Okay here's where my big, uneducated (BUT RESEARCHED) mouth is gonna interject. :-) HFCS is made from genetically modified corn. All of this is caused by genetically modified crops and the pesticides sprayed on them. CORN, SOY, SUGAR BEETS, SOYBEAN, RAPESEED, COTTON AND WHEAT (although they refuse to admit it is)...... WHEAT? GLUTEN? okay, here are my key words: gluten, msg (do you know they spray msg on wine grapes while they're growing?) , aspartame, gmo foods. They are all connected and the pesticides used in addition are key in all of this. It's coming from the soil, the air, the chemtrails, the water, and that's why ticks and other insects which live in the soil and on vegetation, and feed off animals which eat that vegetation and drink the water, (insects now include any blood sucking insect like fleas and mosquitos) and it's being eaten by any one who eats processed foods, which is like, 75% of the population. And it's passed throughout anyone who needs blood transfusions. that's the deal.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 20, 2014 17:24:23 GMT -5
DonZ, When you went through your protocol, did you expell massive amounts of filaments? Sky Hi Sky; I didn't "expel" filaments. There was this blackish stuff that came out around my eyes, as if you ground the black fibers to a fine powder and somehow tatooed yourself with it. It took a while for that to leave. I also had that around my elbows and associated joint pain. It like the fibers were melting. I did have this strange grey plasticky stuff come out of every pore in my body for a couple months. I know that is somehow Md related because it was also coming out of a spot on my lip and on my forehead and those two places did have fibers in the lesions. There seems to be a pattern form some anectdotes I've read. The two lesions I had on my upper back near my neck were that last to go away and they had fibers coming out of them. They did dry up and heal properly and the skin feels normal, not that morgs crust you can feel with your fingernail even when they are "healed" The grey plasticky stuff was as if something melted something. So I picked that stuff outta all my pores. When I ran my nail over my skin i could feel a little glob, then just pick it of and chuck it.
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