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Post by DonZ on Jan 20, 2014 17:36:20 GMT -5
Kritters said; "If all the energy is made in the red blood cells. So, what is inhibiting the RBC growth when it's needed at the cellular level to correct that?" Kritts, RBC production is a function of nutrition. lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/happy-ending-for-years-of-suffering-with-chronic-lyme-disease-and-morgellons/*When considering the treatment fatigue that is so common in the Lyme community. It is treatment induced Anemia. Of course there can be other factors but this is going to occur. This is the fatigue a person gets from treating these kinds of infections. The infections are in the bloodstream, but they are also intracellular. They infect the Red Blood Cells. When an intracellular bacteria is killed from treatment it releases an endotoxin flood inside the cell. Very often the cells die also. This results in a low Red Blood Cell count and that is Anemia. Anemia results in fatigue because the Red Blood Cells convert Glucose into Glutathione, which is the body’s antioxident and also ATP, Adenosine triphosphate. ATP is the body’s energy source. You need to make new cells and what rebuilds Red Blood Cells is nutrition. That is one reason why using Moringa Leaf Powder in the protocol is so important, It is the most nutritious food on earth. Especially the comprehensive amount of amino acids it contains that facilitate cell growth. You also need nutrition to rebuild the cell count of your immune system cells, the macrophages, t-cells and b-cells, so it can assist the artificial immune system. Moringa use causes this to happen. Here is also why you need to use the Moringa with the artificial immune system that is the collection of herbal tinctures. In the blood the cells are suspended in the blood plasma. The microbes are pretty good swimmers and make it easily from cell to cell in the plasma. Once inside the cells they use efflux pumps to remove antibacterial substances from their cells so the cells become a safe haven. As new immune system cells are created and red blood cell count goes up then those newly created cells would also become infected if their wasn’t in place the artificial immune system of the herbal tinctures. When there is any attempt to migrate to another cell that causes the pathogens to be killed. Eventually the limit on their pleomorphic abilities and the use of sanctuary sites will become limited and overrun by the herbs abilities. Many components in the herbs erode the efflux pumps over time and cause the infection inside the cells to be killed. This also results in cell death. However because of the artificial immune system the newly created cells won’t become infected. This causes a regeneration of the immune system so the natural immune system can assist the artificial immune system in removing the infections.. Once the Red Blood cell count is up then you will also start producing Glutathione. Detox pathways shut down from inflammation caused by not enough Glutathione. Inflammation is actually a symptom of a wound in the tissue and infections cause a "wound" by releasing irritating toxins. These toxins are neutralized in the body by glutathione and as inflamation subsides detox pathways function will return.
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Post by skyship on Jan 22, 2014 0:35:25 GMT -5
DonZ,
If you looked at the scab under microscope even at 10X you could see the small formation of filament from a black substance. I have a microscope goes up to 40x and can see this fluid like black material.
I wonder if the agrobacterium was used with the prion protein rebuilder In otherwords the heat shock proteins involved in gmo, like the fish gene in the tomato to prevent the tomato from heating up and bursting or cold shock proteins to prevent freezing: we would eat this: these are used in the functional amyloids which are in the foods. But,they are created from archaeans and mixture of bacteria with fungi, yeasts etc. The yeasts have the prions. I am looking at agrobacterium and the yeast connection. Krits claims as I do that candida is involved. I have not given up idea that agro is involved. There are two things that work together in this molecular machine. the hsp104 and the ClpB bacteria where archaean may have been used. This is not normally found in foods or our bodies, like some of the geek scientists say
This is what is being found out now, by some very astute biologists. Finally, but, they should have been looking long time ago.
There are now 20 variations of prion diseases, not including Alz, ALS MS, etc. These are not as lethal, but, they cause damage in gut, skin, lungs etc. They say these are obtained through the foods.
So, the agrobacterium has some very strong possibilities as you have stated.
I am looking for the cause, we all have different protocols, since these manifest differently in individuals. Some of us have tamed these down, but, they have taken a new turn lately. They are being broken up in pieces which could be the work of the hsp104, however, they can rebuild if temperature is right, since they are based on heat or temperature in environs.
Thank you for sharing what you found when you went through your protocol. This is important to know what is coming out once we tackle this.
Sky
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Post by kritters on Jan 22, 2014 1:51:50 GMT -5
here's something interesting. Don Z posted about Dr MacDonald. I was looking for that and came across something I saved in May of 2012: Spirochete warfare: "An article by Marjorie Tietjen called "Discreet Methods of Biological Warfare" offers some interesting points and some food for thought. In her article she mentions Lyme disease and whilst a supposedly "old" disease, has a somewhat curious genetic structure that looks like it "was captured in mid-shuttle," like it is "still undergoing construction." Let´s explain this disease more (information obtained from MedicineNet.com). Lyme disease is a bacterial illness caused by a bacterium called a "spirochete" In the United States, the actual name of the bacterium is Borrelia burgdorferi. In Europe, another bacterium, Borrelia afzelii, also causes Lyme disease. Certain ticks found on deer harbor the bacterium in their stomachs. Lyme disease is spread by these ticks when they bite the skin, which permits the bacterium to infect the body. Lyme disease is not contagious from an affected person to someone else, and the disease can cause abnormalities in the skin, joints, heart, and nervous system. (According to Alan MacDonald, M.D Lyme disease can also be passed on by 'vertical transmission' from mother to fetus) Interestingly, the disease only became apparent in 1975 when mothers of a group of children who lived near each other in Lyme, Connecticut, made researchers aware that their children all were diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. This unusual grouping of illness that appeared "rheumatoid" eventually led researchers to the identification of the bacterial cause of the children's condition, what was then called "Lyme disease" in 1982. Lyme disease affects different areas of the body in varying degrees as it progresses. The site where the tick bites the body is where the bacteria enter through the skin. Initially, the disease affects the skin, causing an expanding reddish rash often associated with "flu-like" symptoms. Later, it can produce abnormalities in the joints, heart, and nervous system. Lyme disease is medically described in three phases as: (1) early localized disease with skin inflammation; (2) early disseminated disease with heart and nervous system involvement, including palsies and meningitis; and (3) late disease featuring motor and sensory nerve damage and brain inflammation and arthritis. One of the interesting areas of Lyme disease is the "three phases" and the following article by Alan MacDonald, M.D. is highly recommended. Unfortunately, there is too much information to include all of it here, so I shall just add a few extracts. Dr. MacDonald became interested in Alzheimer's disease and Lyme when attending a Lyme disease conference in Vienna, Austria. "The speakers were describing Lyme disease as having three stages: primary, secondary and tertiary. Since those terms are also used to describe syphilis, it occurred to him that if Lyme disease had a tertiary, late-stage form, perhaps the late manifestation could be dementia. Like syphilis, which also had late stage dementia, Lyme disease may reoccur thirty or forty years after infection. He hypothesized that if there is a dementia occurring in late-stage Lyme, it might be an Alzheimer's-like illness, a late manifestation of bacterial infection in the brain." Dr. MacDonald explains how "spirochetes have more diverse forms than just the corkscrew, or spiral form." And this explains why many doctors (and the commercially available tests) are unable to discover the disease. As Dr. MacDonald says "If you're looking for evidence of an infection in tissue you want to see the bug. And if you're looking for the bug and you only look for spiral forms, you may miss the other forms, forms that are granular or rounded cyst forms or L-forms." In another article by Elena Cook "Spirochete Warfare" she says "Borrelia, the microbes which cause Lyme disease, are a sub-type of the wider biological classification of spirochetes. Now it has become apparent that the spirochetes were weaponized over 75 years ago." Again, this is quite a long article and we would suggest using the link to read all the information, but here is a small extract from the article: "We now know, for example, that the US allowed leading Nazi bioweaponeer Erich Traub to play a major role in setting up research at their biowarfare lab on Plum Island, a stone's throw away from Lyme, Connecticut, where the first recorded outbreak of Lyme disease in America occurred in the 1970's. Traub's germ warfare knowledge was considered so important that, his Nazi past notwithstanding, he was invited to take charge of scientific research on the Island in the 1950's."" It may be of interest to the public that the research complex on Plum Island, about 1.5 miles off the eastern shore of New York's Long Island, is almost certain to be relocated to a new site in Kansas (Government recommends Kansas for biodefense lab). "The Bush administration acknowledged this year that accidents have happened" on Plum Island and one must wonder at the logic of bringing such a complex to the mainland. Although "officially" the new lab will study foot-and-mouth disease, African swine fever, Japanese encephalitis, Rift Valley fever and the Hendra and Nipah viruses, there is no way of telling what else may be included. Biological Warfare can be used in many ways, it can be developed to kill selected races, disable a country by "infecting" large numbers of the population, birth control and perhaps even making the public more susceptible to authority? It would be easy to dismiss these possibilities as science fiction, but with the destructive force of nuclear weapons already abundant on our planet, we know our leaders are capable of producing (and using) such methods, even though they put our very existence at risk. Sadly, the country that lectures others the most about nuclear and biological weapons (and leads in both of these fields), is the United States, a country that has the dubious "honor" of being the first (and so far only) nation to ever use a nuclear bomb on an enemy. With this thought in mind, we should remember that any country with the capability of using biological weapons is a danger and no one is immune from the temptation of putting such destructive weapons to use. It is up to us (the public) to guard against this madness, because we are the ones that will pay the ultimate price. www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/84139So, I do believe they found an adequete disease causing group of pathogens to fulfill the purpose of this particular plague. At some point we will survive, we will become immune to them, but if we get anywhere near those who do not have it, we shall kiss them, hug them and thank them for being so concerned about us. Just make sure they are "sloppy saliva" kisses as well.
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Post by kritters on Jan 22, 2014 2:16:56 GMT -5
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 22, 2014 3:36:38 GMT -5
JDP, I saw that recently that sourdough bread is ok for gluten sensitive people. Don't understand why, though. Do you know? BTW, how soon before we see your protocol? thanks to all, Kritts Hi Kritters, Sourdough bread is fermented. Fermenting can make foods more beneficial, easier to digest, etc.. For instance, fermenting yogurt for 24 hours or so will remove lactose for those lactose intolerant. Soy, in general is a problematic food but once fermented no longer is in general. Same with Wheat. While the gluten is still in the Sourdough bread, the fermentation no longer makes the gluten content problematic for most people. I'm in the process of writing the protocol. Rough draft almost completed. Here are recent pictures I've taken of healing non healing morgellons lesions using prion inhibition only with an EMF device. www.spooky2.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=105
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Post by skyship on Jan 22, 2014 19:04:19 GMT -5
Jdp,
It seems the synthetic prion and amyloid construction using heatshockprotein 104 molecular motor may be a tool for altering Human RNA and DNA. It fits as a tool or recombinomics and synthetic proteins. The yeast S. Cerevisciae is Brewers yeast found in rising yeast. So, I am thinking not gluten but the yeast was used to make the hsp104 motor in conjunction with ClpB bacteria (archaean) and Sup35p and Sup45. the prion from the yeast in S. cerevisciae and the amyloid filament from this yeast. There are six subunits to this hsp 104 motor. I believe this could be what Carnicom refers to so to speak, but the iron is important in this as well.
Using the yeast structure as a vector to bring in the altered DNA. There are some papers out saying there are over 30 prion related diseases. The variations were meant to happen to find out the "selective nature of the proteins". Epigenetics new name for eugenics. Those who do not adapt to the hsp104 machine get what I call invasive yeast from the sup35 and hsp104. They are not infective, IMO, but are invasive and cause macromolecular crowding, mainly from the initiation of amyloid filaments from this motor. They used the ClpB in plants etc, to initiate this as well. So, we do have a yeast factor. This prion machine, I call it works like a virus and can initiate the amyloid formations. So, there is much more I need to read on this, but, just to let you all know that yes, the model S. cerevisciae (the hsp104) was used as a combination with sup35p and I believe an archaean, possibly T. Thermophilis or one of the halobacterias, extromophiles etc, this would be the inorganic replicator. Some people in the amyloid field are suggesting this was from a fossil. And the latest I heard from our TamTam was the same. However, he believes other dna has been initiated into the human genome as a different type human. Meaning from promordial ooze to human being, so we can guess what genes were used to get there. And I can bet that prions(has a former name) was in the ooze~!
The Ultimate Darwinian selection method, Natural selection. However, manmade with use of natural genes, and extremophile, hyperextremophiles which are partially inorganic.
They say these invasive amyloids come from food, meaning the hsp104 motor is in the gmo foods.
I have an image of the circle with prions (psi) and it forms a new phenotype.
I will put this together, have some more reading to do and I look forward to your protocol, as well as more info and feedback from others on this board.
I do wonder, Krits, if the spirochaete could be an amyloid, they do coil as well especially if in a crowded environment. I will put my path out as to where I went with this. but, I do believe the filaments are more invasive than infective at this time. Most people at the beginning of Morgellons did not have infections. You could release the material from the lesion and yet there was no systemic infection. Per C. Mickelson....... and others......
Skyship
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Post by kritters on Jan 22, 2014 22:19:29 GMT -5
Sky, are you familiar with the book by Wil Spencer in which he speaks of candida being manipulated? an excerpt: "...What Wil reveals just on what they did to Candida yeast alone is worth the price of the book..."
Candida is yeast. Was it combined with protein?
guess I'm gonna have to get the book cuz I want to find out what 'they' did with Candida.
Kritts
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Post by skyship on Jan 23, 2014 13:50:57 GMT -5
I have not purchased the book, yet, but, I believe he has it correct. To heal we need to go back to Bechamp. I have said this all along. However, the yeast he speaks of could be this: and it is related to the filaments that form in the Intermdia. That is what Darwin said was needed for evolution to work. Those were not present in the natural living world, because of the natural given circles of life. ...."each unto its own kind".... all species.
To interfere with this is what is called intermedia. Candida was it. Here, this shows that what you found where candida genes were used with another beginning with the oligomer or heat shock element, remember the spitzenkorper? That is in the candida as well as the nanotube if this has been crossed.
temperature sensing element is the heat shock protein, it senses climate, temperature.
This was used in gmo foods. The catalyst, the conduit, etc. This is in the hsp104, Sup35p and Sup45p one of the elements. PSI+ prion There are six subunits, one must be the candida.
but, there was a plan for this......involves promoters, operons: one such operon is the agrobacterium as well. So, I am so glad he got his book done. This, is crucial for Morgies, and very important information to help heal, in a very natural way.
The nanoparts will be difficult, but, there must be a way, if Rife can be part of the protocol as jdp has stated. So, when we see the errors, we can see the outcomes and know the inner environment is healed, and stop the crowding of nano materials and its crossover with natural components, not of human origin.
Many of these heat shock proteins are in gmo foods. Finding this connection has been difficult, there had to be a deliverer. Some say chemtrails, which could be as well on the entire earth. Geoengineering has only made this worse, by a flawed premise. Using inorganic material combined with altered genomics and nanoparticles. Prions are nanoparticles. IMO.
That inorganic can only be the prion and/or metals, since they do not have a nucleus, but can act as a virus whether natural or inorganic (which is still natural), but, does not belong in living elements, especially in the recombined synthetic polypeptides, these heat shock proteins are only needed when there is heat shock, so we know that this is used as a tool, to bring in the evolutionary nanowire,amyloid structure, created in a lab to alter human dna.
This article tells how the intermedia, which is the problem, is compared to hsp104.
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this is important:
......"Results showed that cultivation of yeast cells in the presence of 100μM Cr(VI) caused induction of Hsp104, which is connected to formation of protein aggregates. "
These protein aggregates are the amyloids and prions from the hsp104. Once the hsp104 breaks them apart, the protein collect in a bundle or are broken pieces of the protein, yet, they are insoluable, so they still remain in body and can replicated from the fragments, thereby creating more amyloids and prions, which makes it a very crowded environment. This environment can be changed. I believe that is what Dr. Wil is saying. These do not cause the real prion diseases, but, they are causing many, many variations depending on your DNA and your body environment.
What is terrible is that this was introduced into the human body by foods, both artificial, flavors, colors, sugars etc. and genetically modified insects, and crop foods. This made the matter worse because it created amyloids that were not there before, so to make matters worse, archaeans were introduced as capacitors, those are the heat shock proteins and the motor is the yeast(heat shock protein 104 motor, which includes hsp 70(DNAK), heat shock protein 104(DNAJ). Am still reading more on this, but, it is coming together.
These were used as tools to alter human dna, cytoskeleton in the extracellular spaces, that is why there is crowding there, these are competing with the natural native system, trying to give new instructions to the natural dna.
So, if the natural native system can be brought back to its natural state, it may overpower the alterations and prevent more from forming. If we can avoid the synthetic heat shock proteins, than we are better off.
The nano needs to be de frequenced. If we can alter the electrical conduit or capacitor, we can switch off the motor.
Since this hsp is environmental, it relies on the environment around us, and in us.
All to prove that we are evolving....into what? The whole evolutionary paradigm was to create man from the primordial ooze. Even Tam Tam mentions the "new human" which is the altered human to prove evolutionary point. The directed Darwinian natural selection, which is not natural to the native human.
It is directed by evolutionary intermediates......even Darwin said this, but somehow the evolutionist evo devos.(evolutionary developers) did not get that point or they did and are using the intermedia as the way in. If we can switch off the heat shock protein that have been forced into our bodies, then we can gain some leverage. There are over 40 variations, so far, I found 30, then another recent report came out declaring there are 40. These relate to neural junctions, carbon junctions(since nanotubes have the new carbon in them...fullerenes).....
This is why lymes can be seen as related to Morgellons, but, yet is in its Lyme form borellia, and the different forms of spirochaetes may appear as Lymes, but, could be the nanotube, amyloid filaments which can coil just like a spirochaete. but are smaller than the Borellia. So would work like Lymes affecting the joints where these filaments collect in bundles, so one has to move the bundles out of the joint. Why massage is important for the joints.
So many things can be done naturally, but these items have been put in the closet, as was Bechamp.
Skyship
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Post by kritters on Jan 23, 2014 15:37:55 GMT -5
Geez, Sky~ When I ask you a question it's like talking to Mr. Wizard (remember him way back in the old days?) www.mrwizardstudios.com/ OMG looks like he's still alive!!! So basically, Candida, agrobacterium, Lyme, prions, misfolded proteins, GMO are all somehow together in this show. According to Dr. MacDonald (link posted by Don Z) there are (about) 150 different spirochetes. They probably don't even know which are in fact spirochetes or which are candida look-alikes. Or which are man-made versions. I wonder why (as I posted under my random thoughts) they collect in the joints. Synovial fluid? Cartilage? warmth from movement? Any thoughts on that? you're amazing. Kritters
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Post by skyship on Jan 23, 2014 19:53:11 GMT -5
Krits, You found the link of candida to nanotubes~! Here is the link of candida with the sup35p, the amyloid former or conformer as it is called. that particular hsp comes from candida, that ole spitzenkorper heh? Delving into the hsp104 machine.....well more to come.....but this is a KICKER~! HSP from candida. dog gone it~! ====================== The [PSI+] Prion of Saccharomyces cerevisiae Can Be Propagated by an Hsp104 Orthologue from Candida albicans www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1405891/thi
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Post by skyship on Jan 23, 2014 19:57:05 GMT -5
.....The presence of the key chaperone for the propagation of S. cerevisiae prions in C. albicans and its ability to facilitate the propagation of ScSup35p as a prion suggest that the cellular machinery necessary for prion propagation exists in C. albicans. The development of a sensitive assay, such as that based on readthrough of a stop codon in either the ADE1 or ADE2 gene, is now required in order to search for CaSup35p-based prions in C. albicans.....
skyship
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Post by kritters on Jan 23, 2014 21:17:05 GMT -5
coolbeans!!! :-)
Kritts
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Post by jdp7100 on Jan 24, 2014 15:26:45 GMT -5
Hi skyship, Thanks for the info. Very interesting. There have been good research in eradicating candida with the use of frequencies. electromedicine.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/candida_research-holman_dorneanu_2009.pdfFurther, there is another researcher who has devised a method via math calculation based on DNA to find oscillator rate that can inhibit or break apart specific pathogens. www.dnafrequencies.com/1999.shtml Agrobacterium is in it. Researchers who use this method have had good results in inhibiting specific pathogens and some confirmed through testing. In addition, there are multiple devices out there than can scan and record the frequencies that the body will ping at for lack of a better term. These pings can be metals, etc. as well as pathogens. Just like the tricorder seen in Star Trek but they all have drawbacks to them and can produce false positives and can be complicated to operate (note that in Star Trek the doctor on the show is the one who uses the device as not anyone can operate it). Devices from Switzerland, Germany, US, etc.. Here is one device showing the graph of the pings. electromedicine.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/dz20mrt20a.jpg Running frequencies at those pings for instance can eradicate acute ailments like a cold very fast if one has enough skill to operate the device. The point in all this is the short answer is while I do not own a device that can scan the body as they are very expensive although two other morgellons researchers do, I believe after exhaustive study and experiments inhibiting viruses and prions are heavily behind my manifestation and needed for symptom relief. I kinda gave up on finding a specific pathogen such as the yeast responsible for prion. And one researcher mentioned a theoretical mycoplamsa to me one. Maybe transfering genes from original pathogen to other pathogens and probiotics in body is why I haven't been able to find specific pathogen responsible? Nanotech, etc. as well in morgellons and other issues but inhibiting viruses and inhibiting growth rate of prions has given the best results in my experience. The problem being is once stop treating symptoms occur very fast. But if I stopped treating myself, would be housebound or maybe even bedridden.
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Post by DonZ on Jan 26, 2014 12:28:09 GMT -5
"The problem being is once stop treating symptoms occur very fast." This is because the lesion that you see on the skin is maybe 10% of the actual infection. A large amount of infection is present in the tissues of the area well before it gets to the point where it is visible. Unless that infection is removed the lesion will always return. You can remove these infections with Amino and organic Acids. You have to have a certain strength for a certain time to have success. lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/happy-ending-for-years-of-suffering-with-chronic-lyme-disease-and-morgellons/
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Post by DonZ on Jan 27, 2014 10:02:01 GMT -5
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Post by DonZ on Jan 29, 2014 11:18:15 GMT -5
www.imagerynet.com/amino/therapeutic.html*Amino acids account for 75% of dry body weight. (Vitamins and minerals account for only 1.5 % of dry body weight). *Amino acids make up all neurotransmitters except for one. *100% of hormones are made up of amino acids. *DNA and RNA, our genetic material, require amino acids. *Protein IS amino acids.
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Post by skyship on Jan 29, 2014 15:08:58 GMT -5
DonZ, You hit it on the nail. "Protein IS amino acids" The unnatural amino acid. It appears the ncRNA from the protein end is the issue. the NIH may have been forced to really see this damage, finally. The common fund for uncommon diseases, which we know Morgellons is not a disease, it is an operation that has caused a disease, because it altered RNA. So, now they know it was from foods and the environment. The non coding RNA, which does not code for our DNA but, tears into our RNA, thereby affecting the DNA, through the back door, so to speak. =============== An estimated 6 percent of the U.S. population suffers from a rare disorder. Building on the success of NIH intramural research into rare diseases, the Common Fund's UDP will test whether this type of cross-disciplinary approach to disease diagnosis is feasible to implement in academic medical centers around the country. It will promote the use of genomic data in disease diagnosis and will engage basic researchers to identify the underlying mechanisms so that therapies may be rapidly identified. The program will also train clinicians in the use of contemporary genomic approaches so that these methods can be used to fight other diseases. NIH expects to provide approximately $145 million in Common Fund support over the next seven years for the UDP program.“This program will spawn new medical discoveries and accelerate clinical investigations that will ultimately improve the lives of thousands of patients living with undiagnosed diseases,” said Collins. “Establishing a national network of clinical research centers is a critical first step towards addressing the need for more rapid and coordinated approaches to diagnose and manage rare undiagnosed diseases.” The Common Fund's Extracellular RNA Communication program will explore new ways in which cells communicate with each other using extracellular ribonucleic acids (RNAs) — RNAs that are present in the space outside of and between cells. The program will provide foundational information about the synthesis, distribution, uptake, and function of extracellular RNAs that are involved in cell-to-cell communication that is critical for basic cell function and health. It was once thought that RNA could only exist in a stable form in cells, where it functions as coding RNA, an important intermediary between genes and proteins. While coding RNA provides the blueprint to translate genes into proteins, a different class of non-coding RNA regulates this process. Recently, it has been shown that both coding and non-coding RNAs are secreted from cells and influence other cells some distance away. In addition, RNA from food that we eat, or from organisms in our environment, may also be taken up into cells.....www.nih.gov/news/health/jul2012/od-02.htm===================== I am digging into this further and I think when you mention an "artificial immune system" This alteration caused the real immune system to shut down, and released our RNA along with the products. Not sure, how that works, but, again the agrobacterium certainly comes in here along with the product found in foods and human. The Arp 2/3 complex. And it is complicated, but, is used in foods and in humans. They have a special program just for the RNA. exRNA. Then again they may twist this for benefit to pharma companies. The very product we would be tested with. commonfund.nih.gov/exrna/fundedresearchSkyship
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Post by skyship on Jan 29, 2014 15:47:13 GMT -5
First there had to be a translation, even though they explain here how this release from cells into extracellular spaces connect to other cells. However, a translation came about, was that initiation 70 years ago, when they discovered these exosomes. And I believe it was. So, this cause of this secretion, from cells is or must be from noncoding genes. How did they get in the body, in the first place? So, could the people who created it, also be the saviors? oops...... Exosome Blood-Based Biomarker Discovery Exosome Blood-Based Biomarker Discovery September 20, 2013|Posted in: Industry News, Press Releases Eli Lilly Enters Collaboration Agreement with Exosome Diagnostics NEW YORK September 19, 2013 — Exosome Diagnostics today announced it has entered into a collaboration agreement with Eli Lilly and Company (NYSE: LLY) for biomarker discovery and validation using Exosome Diagnostics proprietary EXO50 nucleic acid extraction kit. Under the agreement, Lilly will gain early access to […] www.exosome-rna.com/exosome-blood-based-biomarker-discovery/It is like having the horse in front of the cart. Have the product ready as you view the variations caused from a non coding RNA created by food makers and others who created the transposon in the first place. So, they know what this is and the damage it has caused. So, putting our trust in them at this time, is a bit hesitant. Thanks for all your studies and info you are putting out. skyship
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Post by DonZ on Feb 1, 2014 7:50:59 GMT -5
Skyship; Your knowledge is impressive. I look at it this way; Will not be able to solve all the aspects of the MD issue because it is very complex and there needs to be actual lab based research done. Nobody will, it will take a collective effort driven by an understanding of the dire consequences. The impact it is having on the survival of this planet needs to be addressed right now. We can't afford to wait. I believe Monsanto knows what they've done and is probably trying to fix it in some other really stupid way like releasing synthetic predators to the MD pathogen in the environment. Better living through science?! When I created what I need for myself I took everything that I felt was reasonable that was a known and filled in the puzzle pieces for the unknowns by theorizing best I could. When you consider that abject DNA/RNA is the planted seed of this and that DNA/RNA responds substantially to it's environment, Fluid genome, then in the framework that the body is 75% amino acids or amino acid products and that the dietary amino acid supply in society is incredibly deficient because of the manufactured crap on the supermarket shelves they are passing off as food, well my conclusion is what I've been suggesting. I put everthing in here that i thought was needed and it worked for me. When you get the organic and amino acids up to a certain level for a certain duration you can actually feel them working on infection areas in your body. Something I can say that you probably know, Bartonella is very closely related toAgrobacterium and then there are an endless variety of potential bartonella like organisms that could have trans developed. In the Lyme community Bart is considered the hardest thing to get rid of and the prominent LLMD's still are struggleing with finding a treatment for BART. This protocol kicked butt on my Bart symptoms. And you could tell they weren't able to adjust to it. I don't know exactly how this works because there was a certain amount of conjecture. But it does work. www.lyme-morgellons.com/organic-and-amino-acids.htmlWe need to quit making antibiotic and pumping them into the environment. I'm trying to promote this for that goal among others. ~d
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Post by DonZ on Feb 1, 2014 8:37:19 GMT -5
One thing that i will say about the stubborn lesions. When I had the protocol build up in my system too the point it was effective and I massaged the lesions to break up the internal stuff. Then I could feel a burning sensation down inside my flesh where the unseen infection under the lesion is. It was a burn like when you put iodine on an infected cut but down inside my tissue and inch or so.
I will give Staninger credit for this, the far infrared she was pushing to get the MD "debris" out of you does help to detox that junk but more importantly the 9 micron frequency that it uses, that is natural to your cell freq, ALSO drive the treatment into cells and tissues. I bought this little FIR pad from a place called promolife. That was well before I was thinking in terms of this protocol. When I used it on lesions It would bring a lot of stuff to the surface but it never really got rid of them they always came back,and when I did that I didn't feel anything going on inside there. Using the small FIR pad on a lesion when i was fully engaged in treatment ALSO made the tissue burn under the lesion point.
I read this burning sensation as effective against the infection.
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Post by DonZ on Feb 1, 2014 9:51:29 GMT -5
Your natural immune system just gets pummeled by these infections. The CD-57, CD-56 goes way down . The white blood cells , t-cells and b-cells , get infected. The bone marrow where they are produced is infected, the thymus where t- cells mature is infected, The lymph system is infected. They take away your defenses.
When white blood cells respond to a chronic systemic infection something that they do is to release endogenous pyrogens. EP are hormones that signal the hypothalamus to regulate body temp by creating fever or chills.
It took about 4-5 months into the protocol for me to start getting chills , it lasted a couple weeks. It was a sign that my CD-57, CD-56 count was back up, meaning the strategy of the protocol kept newly produced WBC's from getting infected and they were now doing their job.
The natural immune system can only help the artificial immune system but when it does it puts power on the side of the patient.
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Post by DonZ on Feb 1, 2014 10:45:13 GMT -5
Oh another sign that your immune system is kicking back in is the itching. Early on in the process of infection you will get itching because your immune system is trying to fight it. When the immune system gets taken down enough the itching subsides. The itching is caused by histamine released by damaged cells. The histamine actually makes surrounding tissue more permeable and is an attempt by your body to increase detoxing through the skin. So when your immune system recovers enough to be functional itching will increase because the pathogen and immune system war is creating a lot of damaged cells.
When my chills started kicking in there was also itching and these both came to a peak and tapered off to nothing over about a month. After that I felt normal again.
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Post by skyship on Feb 23, 2014 18:13:17 GMT -5
bump up
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Post by Ruth on Apr 3, 2014 12:41:41 GMT -5
Hi Don, I am starting on your protocol. You mentioned P.C. Not clear what that is.
I took a 1000mg capsule of Taurine, a 650 mg softgel of cod liver oil and 2 sofgels of Lecithin for 2400mg of lecithin and 840mg of PC. The PC is combined with the lecithin. Also take Resveratrol (2 capsules DS)
Thank You.
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Post by Don Z on Jul 5, 2014 6:27:38 GMT -5
One of the main reason for treatment failure is not also using the adjunct treatment 6 grams of MSM in liquid a day. MSM causes the other treatments to be delivered inside the cells, it also crosses the blood brain barrier.. www.lyme-morgellons.com
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Post by Skipper on Nov 12, 2018 2:34:54 GMT -5
This message is for Don Z. The protocol you listed no longer exist. Could you please repost it. Thanks.
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Post by minglobal76 on Dec 23, 2018 10:57:22 GMT -5
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