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Post by skyship on Jun 5, 2009 23:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by skyship on Jun 5, 2009 23:41:40 GMT -5
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jill
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Post by jill on Jun 6, 2009 10:40:26 GMT -5
Seems everything I read lately goes to cancer- to include the new retrovirus.
Fluoride and aluminum wasn't working fast enough evidently...
Jill
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Post by aqt on Jun 6, 2009 19:08:28 GMT -5
Perhaps they are using the Morgellon's organism to "re-awaken" these long inactive retroviruses?
along witht he help of the agrobacterium and it's Horizontal gene tranfer abilities?
like an onion
layer upon layer upon layer
the plot thickens.
aqt
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 22:25:50 GMT -5
this is what I am thinking, that what some scientists called "Junk DNa" was what kept us from getting these retroviruses. Now, by dissing the silent DNA and reactivating it they are in the form of reductionism reduced the junk DNA back to to the viral stage.
Seems the only thing that evolved in humans was the viruses. They evolved or devolved by way of silent X in females subduing the viruses. So, by way of reductionism, these evo devos' created evolution. In fact they have enhanced the spread of human genes into the environment, into bugs, plants, rice, corn, soy, especially, and many others.
These then by way of agrobacterium link right into our genes by way of the protein that is secreted, plant cells, insect cells, animal cells and human cells. So, linking back by way of undoing the silent gene's work, one brings back the ancient DNA. with its virus.
Viruses in the form of bacteriophages now made into nano machine. The bacteriophage, the viruses are what mutates any DNA, causing what they call Diseases.
So, back to the Bechamp, and we may get well. Our bodies have utilized the X or our mothers have, to survive the original virus, we were meant to. So, my take is that we are the survivers because we still have "junk DNa" that works when it needs to, to fight the ancient virus again. Our junk DNA could be "pure gold"
make sense, or am I off my rocker!
Skyship
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 22:44:45 GMT -5
Welllllllllllllllll...........Maybe my rocker just needs wheels..................... Genius of Junk (DNA) (10/07/2003) Topics: Genetics & DNA, Health Comments * Producer: Sonya Pemberton * Researcher: Carina Dennis and Rhian Skirving Junk DNAFrom July 6 - 11 the world’s leading geneticists gather in Melbourne for the 50th anniversary of Watson and Crick’s discovery of the structure of DNA. Right in the midst of this event, Genetic Congress 2003, Catalyst reveals the extraordinary mistake made by the vast majority of the genetics community - the failure to recognise the vital importance of so-called Junk DNA. Dr Malcolm Simons is an internationally recognised immunologist. A New Zealand born Australian, he has spent 30 years of his life hunting for new and better ways to diagnose disease. Along the way he has gained a reputation as somewhat of an eccentric. He has been married – and divorced - five times. He has fathered three pairs of children. He's been bankrupt, a classical piano player, and played for Australia in international squash. Genius of Junk is the story of how Malcolm Simons turned Junk into gold, enflaming one of the greatest controversies of our time - the control and ownership of our genetic material. It is a story of triumph and tragedy. The triumph of a man flying in the face of conventional scientific thought, facing ridicule for his ideas and living to see those ideas vindicated. The tragedy of seeing his dreams come to fruition as he faces death. For he himself has cancer, Multiple Myeloma. A fatal and incurable cancer, formed in the very Junk DNA he spent 16 years exploring. This is also a story of genius and character. Malcolm Simons had the genius to realise that the non-coding part of our DNA wasn’t in fact the junk DNA that many scientists had labelled it, but vital to the processes of life. And he has a character that fits the cliché of the eccentric scientist - brilliant at his work but hopeless with everyday life. As he faces the greatest battle of all, Malcolm Simons takes us on a unique personal and scientific journey, to the heart of the things that matter to the very core of life - and death. more here: ..........."Malcolm Simons couldn’t believe that evolution would be so wasteful. In 1987, despite having no formal training in genetics, he had a moment of remarkable insight that convinced him that Junk DNA was serving a vital function; it provided markers that indicated susceptibility to disease. At a Workshop in the United States, he saw patterns emerge from the non-coding DNA. He realised that whatever was going on in non-coding DNA was not random. Malcolm Simons, "There was order in the 95%. If there was order there was likely to be function. Maybe this was a way to also contribute to understanding the function of genes and therefore their malfunction in disease and in so doing help diagnosis - make earlier diagnosis - help save lives." When he posed his radical theory that this junk might actually have a critical role in diagnosis, his peers announced, "Malcolm, you're off your friggin' head." Undeterred, Malcolm set out to prove that this was no junk. The majority of geneticists were focused on coding DNA, the non-coding region was left field and probably irrelevant - but for Malcolm it became the main game. Fortunately one man believed in his genius - entrepreneur Mervyn Jacobson. In a real-life Odd Couple pairing (Mervyn is as organised and efficient as Malcolm is eccentric and chaotic) they formed Genetic Technologies in 1989. They believed that this non-coding DNA could prove valuable in diagnosing disease, perhaps in developing therapies, even cures. There were others around the world exploring similar ideas, but Malcolm Simons took the crucial, unprecedented step - in the mid 1990s he patented the use of the so called Junk. It was an act of extraordinary and provocative foresight. Today, $20 million of investment later, that foresight is paying off literally. Researchers the world over are confirming that non-coding DNA holds critical clues to a vast range of diseases; breast cancer, HIV, Crohns disease, Alzheimer’s, heart disease, ovarian and skin cancer… the list is growing daily. A leading figure in world genetics, Prof. John Mattick, recently claimed that, "the failure to recognise the implications of the non-coding DNA will go down as the biggest mistake in the history of molecular biology". In the last year Genetic Technologies has signed a series of licensing deals allowing companies to use their Junk DNA patents. This is bringing in millions of dollars for the company and the profits look like they will continue to roll in. The junkyard it seems, is a goldfield. And suddenly, the implications of the patents are staggering. Genetic Technologies controls access to 95% of DNA of every creature on earth. And they can charge license fees to anyone, anywhere in the world, working in the non-coding regions. The critics of DNA patenting are outraged. But for Malcolm Simons the vindication and controversy is somewhat meaningless. He resigned from Genetic Technologies in 2000. He no longer has any shares in the company he once co-owned, he’s broke and he’s grappling with the realities of final stage cancer. TRANSCRIPT found here: www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s898887.htm“We used to think our fate was in our stars. Now we know, in large measure, our fate is in our genes.” James D. Watson from Watson's own mouth?................... only if modified or altered..................though.... skyship
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 22:53:25 GMT -5
oh and here is more: Here is where s hits the fan and all that genetic bacteria and slime mold can blow away. When one side of the argument is missing, then no one wins, including science. Those who can suppress others in science, will, and have, but, after some time, questions will and are arising. Big Time. About time, I'd Say. FAQ: Has a lack of intelligent design theory hindered scientific progress? a.k.a. How can intelligent design theory advance science? The Short Answer: The Short Answer: The primary way that a lack of ID has hindered science is in science's pursuit of empirical truth. If intelligent design is an actual cause for the origin of life, particularly human life, then the failure of the scientific enterprise to recognize that fact would mean that science is not fulfilling its goal to discover empirical truth. But there are more pragmatic considerations. One striking example where a failure to consider intelligent design has stifled scientific progress is with vestigial organs or "junk DNA." Evolution led people to assume they were functionless. Intelligent design might lead scientists to believe they have function. Scientists today are finding more and more function for types of DNA previously thought to be functionless. Scientific American recently stated that the "assumption [that the DNA was junk] was too hasty" and that "[t]he failure to recognize the importance of introns [previously thought to be a form of "junk DNA"] 'may well go down as one of the biggest mistakes in the history of molecular biology. Could evolutionary assumptions cause the "one of the biggest mistakes in the history of molecular biology?" Of course, this example is aside from the obvious answer that science seeks truth (or at least it is supposed to), and if life was designed, and didn't evolve, then we would want to know that. Any finding of design is progress in science, if design is the right answer. www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/1155Will delve into who are the Creationist scientists, they believe in the Creation. and in Intelligent Design. ".....we are all uniquely made....." including Junk DNA, actually DNA is the WORD! Divine Natural Arrival! ha ha. skyship
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 23:02:11 GMT -5
another snippet: ...The Intelligent Design Approach ID-proponents have been suggesting a different approach for a while now. In 1994, ID-proponent Forrest Mims predicted that non-coding “junk” DNA would have function, writing a letter to Science, “Those supposedly meaningless strands of filler DNA that molecular biologists refer to as ‘junk’ don't necessarily appear so useless to those of us who have designed and written code for digital controllers.” Science rejected the letter, but in 1998, long before the "junk-DNA" revolution was in full swing, William Dembski predicted function for non-coding "junk"-DNA based upon intelligent design: But design is not a science stopper. Indeed, design can foster inquiry where traditional evolutionary approaches obstruct it. Consider the term "junk DNA." Implicit in this term is the view that because the genome of an organism has been cobbled together through a long, undirected evolutionary process, the genome is a patchwork of which only limited portions are essential to the organism. Thus on an evolutionary view we expect a lot of useless DNA. If, on the other hand, organisms are designed, we expect DNA, as much as possible, to exhibit function. And indeed, the most recent findings suggest that designating DNA as "junk" merely cloaks our current lack of knowledge about function. For instance, in a recent issue of the Journal of Theoretical Biology, John Bodnar describes how "non-coding DNA in eukaryotic genomes encodes a language which programs organismal growth and development." Design encourages scientists to look for function where evolution discourages it. (William Dembski, "Intelligent Science and Design," First Things, Vol. 86:21-27 (October 1998)) Finally, in 2004 Jonathan Wells wrote, “research shows that ‘junk DNA’ does, indeed, have previously unsuspected functions. Although that research was done in a Darwinian framework, its results came as a complete surprise to people trying to ask Darwinian research questions. The fact that ‘junk DNA’ is not junk has emerged not because of evolutionary theory but in spite of it. On the other hand, people asking research questions in an ID framework would presumably have been looking for the functions of non-coding regions of DNA all along, and we might now know considerably more about them.” (Jonathan Wells, “Using Intelligent Design Theory to Guide Scientific Research,” Progress in Complexity, Information, and Design, 3.1.2 (Nov. 2004), emphasis in original) Perhaps it’s time for a new approach to “junk” DNA."...... www.evolutionnews.org/2006/12/junk_dna_and_sciencestopping.htmlSo, it appears that INTRONS are where they went wrong, I covered this a while back, years maybe, but these are intermediate filaments, and will look for that info again. If it takes Morgellons to "stop science" well, lets get going.................... Think we got them by the ba..s ? Naw, need more evidence of what was done with the created "Introns" ........ so we can nail em! skyship
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 23:33:30 GMT -5
Introns: how did they do it? Intron From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search For the drug marketed by Schering-Plough, see Interferon. Diagram of the location of introns and exons within a gene. An intron is a DNA region within a gene that is not translated into protein. These non-coding sections are transcribed to precursor mRNA (pre-mRNA) and some other RNAs (such as long noncoding RNAs), and subsequently removed by a process called splicing during the processing to mature RNA. After intron splicing (ie. removal), the mRNA consists only of exon derived sequences, which are translated into a protein. The word intron is derived from the term intragenic region and also called intervening sequence (IVS)[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intron..............................INTERVENING sequence........................by way of mRNA. cutting out the "junk DNA" that IS VERY NEEDED BY US! (my opine)........ what is mRNA? precursor mRNA the messenger ....... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precursor_mRNAmRNA: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNAso the transcriber is what is coded into the non coding? So it becomes activated? am learning as I go here, but, am getting it. I am talking activated "silent genes" that will code I bet when "virus" is present and will mutate. So, the non coding "junk DNA" is fighting back? I hope. skyship skyship
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 23:36:26 GMT -5
Am thinking also that the virus h1n1 is related to this Phoenix virus, after all related to bird flu, the flying dragon, or the flying snake or the flying worm, at the root, agrobacterium the intron slicer?
metaphors and reality.
such games have been played, big time! Checkmate!
skyship
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 23:37:53 GMT -5
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 23:46:53 GMT -5
mention introns a bit. thats when things were flying and we were getting zapped big time. Well, here we go again........ I am mad as He.. and am not going to take these lies in the science field any longer! and found a link to Alzheimers, Syphillis and Lymes in the Burgdorfi. 6 papers.....................from the real scientific files........... www.molecularalzheimer.org/files/Compiled_Medical_Hyoptheses_6_papers.pdfanother checkmate! Skyship
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Post by skyship on Jun 6, 2009 23:55:45 GMT -5
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jonsi
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Post by jonsi on Jun 11, 2009 1:16:01 GMT -5
Hi skyship,
This is making sense! Let me read and absorb...
I do believe that "Morgellons" is one step above cancer and we have it beat.
Itwl, ~jonsi
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Post by aqt on Jun 15, 2009 20:34:04 GMT -5
sky.. looks like that rocker of yours DOES need wheels....with some mag rims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you are really on to something here
will be delving in to assist as time allows on this end
aqt
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Post by aqt on Jun 15, 2009 20:36:57 GMT -5
just a thought
what happens when a DNA region with a gene that does not translate into a protein(INTRON) is "triggered" by something (morgellon's) and begins translating into protein??
protein fibers? amyloid fibers? protein crystals?
aqt
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Post by aqt on Jun 15, 2009 20:39:46 GMT -5
In 1977, a surprising phenomenon was discovered — introns. These are sequences of DNA, within genes, which have no apparent purpose. The genes containing them were called "split genes." You could think of introns as long commercials, in a language you don't understand, interrupting your favorite television show right in the middle of the action. Introns are rare within prokaryotic cells. They are rare within the nuclear genomes of single-celled eukaryotes. However, within the cells of multicelled animals and plants almost every gene has introns. It is reasonable to wonder whether a working theory of evolution could have predicted the discovery of introns. By 1977 we already knew that eukaryotic genes were long. We knew that the same genes could be located in different places in different members of the same species. We knew that a lot of DNA was silent. None of these observations led to the prediction of introns. Introns were a complete surprise. "Surprisingly" is a very common word in genetics research. The Darwinian paradigm makes very few predictions, yet is often surprised. www.panspermia.org/introns.htmaqt
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Post by aqt on Jun 15, 2009 20:43:18 GMT -5
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Post by aqt on Jun 15, 2009 20:45:15 GMT -5
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Post by aqt on Jun 15, 2009 20:47:19 GMT -5
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Post by skyship on Jun 15, 2009 22:06:07 GMT -5
peripherin particle: the IF Intermediate filament: GFP-peripherin:
If we focus on the particle, this has to be from virus, am thinking ancient Virus, the rising of the Phoenix, the rising of the Phoenix Virus, the reestablishment of it, as bacteriophage?
Now, check out this crop circle, shows Eagle with something in center, looks like the critter we pull out of our lesions. Notice the spiked body in circle heading up toward neck of Eagle.
US the Eagle, the Raven is on it's beak, as in the Universal Tree, but the dragon snake-worm, is at the root, RISING THE PHOENIX, the virus as the root of the tree? Meaning virus is at the root of the Tree of Life. The vikings knew this, Indians knew this, many ancients knew this.
The virus has been buried, will effect the snake or creature the Eagle eats.
So, what worm, could carry a virus?
Study the crop circle, the answer is there........... www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5540634/Phoenix-crop-circle-may-predict-end-of-the-world.htmlthe virus in the center of the world? the Phoenix virus? IT was two combined.
And the Swine flu, the mycroplasma, the bird flu (Eagle) notice in the crop circle the viral phage is centered, and inside the spiked looking creature is the world, and line toward center. So, the Phoenix Virus is from a Volcano. Archaea, kerogens, masking as space dust.
Now to fix the accumulated viral package, then dimers, have to created, done by Sigma Aldrich, Oligionucleotides were created to replace the accumulated viral package of those who have the Ancient DNA IT IS CALLED HERV - K , then there are those with HERV R.HERV-K, is the youngest and most conserved family of endogenous retrovirus, but the role of HERV expression in disease remains unclear. After millions of years as our nearest neighbours, we still don’t know much about these things inside us! A team of French scientists has reconstructed the DNA sequence of a 5-million-year-old retrovirus and shown that it is able to produce infectious particles. The resulting retrovirus, which they named Phoenix, is the ancestor of the HERV-K line. This study is the first to generate an infectious retrovirus from a mobile element in the human genome, and so provides definitive proof of replication capabilities locked up in seemingly dead fossil genetic elements (Dewannieux M, et al. Identification of an infectious progenitor for the multiple-copy HERV-K human endogenous retroelements. Genome Res. 2006).
We are talking about Infectious PARTICLES, which form into the Phoenix Virus. Will try to break this down. But, you can see images on the crop circle.
Will try to put together, will take some time, but, I can see where they dug up all viruses and if the Phoenix is Rising, then that means the Volcano is about to spew, in more ways than one.
The Eagle in the old Norse Myth has a Raven on his nose, we get this in our noses, The dragon worm sends messages from the root, to the eagle, the brain? So, this worm comes in through the foot. My thoughts and metaphors are flowing but, the crop circle does have it. and so does the Norse myth.
Worm ? Parisitoid wasp, the eggs, the clear ball stuff, from ancient nudiviruses with the ancient parasite of the ancient wasp.
Okay lets just center on this HERV-K what is it? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogenous_retrovirusThis is what H1n1 is all about. We have the ancient genes the Herv K.
Involved in MS, alz, muscular dystrophy, nerve, muscle junctions, etc.
What worm hurts the Eagle?
This one hurts crickets:www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/316/Cricket_infected_with_Parasitic_Gordian_worm/Wonder what snake has the gordian worm as a parasite? Also the parasitoid wasp was put together by Bayer, Monsanto people.
So ancient virus in parasitoid wasp ( our bug) they are very small, the gordian worm inside us, the HERV K people with the ancient DNA, we are the snakes? But what snake will kill the Eagle? and does the gordian worm live in this snake? and has the gordian worm been infected by the parasitoid wasp larvae that is loaded with the Phoenix virus? or the nudivirus?
Metaphors in and out, but am finding that the root of life must be the virus. Rather than bacteria. Viruses are alive when they find the right DNA.
HERV R and Herv K and Herv W I think was supposed to fix us tainted Herv Ks? The human endogenous retroviruses (HERVs), ERV3 (HERV-R) and HERV-K, are both known to be transcriptionally active in human placenta. In the case of ERV3 there is also indirect evidence for its participation in cellular differentiation. In this study we examined the expression of ERV3 (HERV-R) and HERV-K in human normal fetal tissues by in situ hybridization. The highest level of ERV3 env expression was detected in primitive adrenal cortex. Elevated levels of expression were also found in the following developing tissues: kidneys (tubules), tongue, heart, liver, and central nervous system. Tissue-specific expression was found for HERV-K rec (former cORF) but not for pol/int transcripts. The highest rec expression was found in placenta and levels slightly higher than sense control were found in the rest of the tissues examined. Pol/Int was not possible to quantitate. It appears that ERV3 is expressed in an organ-specific way during embryogenesis and might suggest a possible role in the development and differentiation of human tissues. tinyurl.com/nrxspbwww.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WXR-465135S-T&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_ sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_ userid=10&md5=874381d0ca811c91eefc053567c4ff71 I am all over this, and yet I can see the picture.
It goes beyond just Earth. In fact does anyone know how Earth got it's name?
Will try to bring up the Universal Tree Myth, many Indians were able to put this in stories.
The mounds.............What are in MOUNDS? SNAKES......................
seek sand, mounds, volcanoes, under the mounds in the earth.
One can see vividly here.
so this came from inside the volcano?
The Pompeii snake ?
mmmm The pompeii worm?serc.carleton.edu/microbelife/topics/marinesymbiosis/pompeii.htmlskyship will try to put all together. I think the Pompeii worm is ancient as well.www.nsf.gov/news/overviews/earth-environ/interact09.jspOne can see the similarity between earth, the volcano rising, the phoenix rising,
and Man. Skyship
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Post by aqt on Jun 16, 2009 6:46:42 GMT -5
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Post by aqt on Jun 16, 2009 6:53:38 GMT -5
Does this make any sense? anyone? ?? just a thought what happens when a DNA region with a gene that does not translate into a protein(INTRON) is "triggered" by something (morgellon's) and begins translating into protein?? protein fibers? amyloid fibers? protein crystals? aqt
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Post by kritters on Jul 23, 2009 15:35:26 GMT -5
Yous gueyz are just so advanced......I have to read the posts with some kind of neuro-calmer, I guess.... Ah yes.....conjures the movie 'Tron'.....another coming up. www.tron-sector.com/Kritts
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Post by kritters on Jul 23, 2009 15:37:03 GMT -5
I know I haven't read all the threads here and you most likely (make that probably...surely) know that they dug up the corpses of the 1918 Spanish flu also.... Voila.....H1N1.... Kritts
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Post by skyship on Jul 24, 2009 10:49:22 GMT -5
kritters,
Good to see you here and thank you for the input. I hope we are making sense, this is so complicated but yet we keep looking
Reconstructed polio, H1N1 and the phoenix, but the phoenix is one that is based on bee and algae fusion, I believe. So, that would refer to pollen, spores being spread by the bee or carried by the parisitoid was larvae in crystal form. The parasitoid wasp and the neurospora crassa broken down into vector and dicty fusion with the light giving factor from typannites, a former creature of the trypanasoma familiy. Pan meaning from outer space?..... well.......
Which planet did we come from? One can pan gold as well. So those rivers of gold so created by space dust and other dust particles created by man and organized into little bucky balls, sure create quite a stir and a rearrangement of the genes.
Trypannites precursors of the trypanasoma?
"Most commonly Trypanites occurs below kukersites, but burrows have been observed between adjacent carbonate beds. Where contacts have been destroyed by pressure solution, their former presence is inferred from borings found below a thick stylolite, rich in organic matter and kerogen." tinyurl.com/kk7rxrwww.er.gov.sk.ca/adx/aspx/adxGetMedia.aspx?DocID=3938,3442,3440, 3385,5460,2936,Documents&MediaID=8666&Filename=pak.pdf more trypanites:tinyurl.com/m7pfckstrata.geol.sc.edu/PDF-Files/IchnoGlossofungites/SilDevDisconOntarioKoblukPembertonKarolyiRisk77.pdf This tells me that kerogen has been substituted for what Carl Sagan called Tholins off Titan. Assimilation of life on other planets, or from other planets.
Kerogen and trypanites or trypanasomes seem to go together, so these like the present day trypanasoma used in the fusion architecture of Morgellons, to recreate this. or is this happening naturally? This is what we are taught to believe.
If one simulates what is from another planet and/or used the alchemy of kerogens, which is from coal, from volcanoes etc. then one is recreating and terra forming and using the underground particle buster, creating techtonic moves. Lucifer in motion...
So, not only outer space but inner space, lighting up. So gotta bring in more of that sunshine, don't we? If we have ancient DNA, then our help comes from above, not below, as many are using those creatures from Under the sea, that light up.
What is above, is below, like a mirror, but the one below is restless. Bioilluminescent material.
and there is this reference to Pan:
"Pan was depicted as a man with the horns, legs and tail of a goat, and with thick beard, snub nose and pointed ears. He was often appears in the retinue of Dionysos alongside the other rustic gods. Greeks in the classical age associated his name with the word pan meaning "all". However, it true origin lies in an old Arkadian word for rustic." www.theoi.com/Georgikos/Pan.htmlwell, could this be talk of genes, ancient genes etc..... Metaphors and paradoxes to tell the story. Arkadiainterestingly, Arkadia, real name..... Greek based on myth.......?"Mythology In Greek mythology, Hermes was born in a sacred cave on the mountain, and so Cyllenius is a frequent epithet of his. The Homeric Hymn Hymn to Pan recalled that "Hermes ... came to Arkadia ... there where his sacred place is as god of Kyllene. For there, though a god, he used to tend curly-fleeced sheep." In ancient times there was a temple and statue dedicated to him on the mountain's summit. Hyginus records that it was on Cyllene that the seer Tiresias changed sex when he struck two copulating snakes. Cyllene (or Kyllene) herself was a mountain nymph (an oread) who had taken for her consort Pelasges in the most ancient times that Greek mythographers could recall. There was a port in Elis in Antiquity named "Cyllene" near the mouth of the Alfeios River, where the traveler Pausanias noted the image of Hermes, "most devoutly worshiped by the inhabitants, is merely the male member upright on the pedestal." Several modern places are also named Kyllini. The Pleiades were born on Mount Kyllini." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_CylleneOh, but I thought Pleiades was in outer space? Seems to be some confusion here, but here is an interesting item on bee keeping and HYGINIS.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Julius_HyginusAre the texts REALLY lost? or just kept from us, because ot the strong belief in the Alexadria finds. There had to be a lot more. And these texts have been hidden from the world for 1,000s of years. Note the link between bees, and astronomy and the dummies who who wrote totally fictious myths. They made them up. They had nothing to do with what transpired, because the texts are lost? How convenient. The truth is always hidden until one can find someone to blame.
"Suetonius remarks that he fell into great poverty in his old age, and was supported by the historian Clodius Licinus. Hyginus was a voluminous author: his works included topographical and biographical treatises, commentaries on Helvius Cinna and the poems of Virgil, and disquisitions on agriculture and bee-keeping. All these are lost.Under the name of Hyginus there are extant what are probably two sets of school notes abbreviating his treatises on mythology; one is a collection of Fabulae ("stories"), the other a "Poetical Astronomy". Hang in there Kritters, one can see where many things based on myth may have not been interpreted correctly. Here, is where the zero point might come in.
skyship
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Post by kritters on Jul 24, 2009 15:42:50 GMT -5
Thanks Skyship...I'll try, I'll try ;D I'm sure I'll be reading more than contributing, but it's all good. Kritts
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