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Post by skyship on Sept 29, 2009 21:07:42 GMT -5
Here is an excerpt from The Plan, and the core of the nano building block. ....."Investigate both the origins of membranous boundaries on the early Earth and the associated properties of energy transduction, transport of nutrients, growth, and division. Investigate the origins and early coordination of key cellular processes such as metabolism, energy transduction, translation and transcription. Without regard to how life actually emerged on Earth, create and study artificial chemical systems that undergo mutation and natural selection in the laboratory.[/u] Example investigations * Determine how ionic and polar nutrients could permeate membrane boundaries to supply monomers and energy for intracellular metabolism and biosynthesis. * Investigate polymerase reactions that can take place in membrane-bounded microenvironments, using external sources of monomers and chemical energy. * Establish membrane bounded protein synthesis systems that incorporate ribosomes and mRNA in lipid vesicles. ".....Now, this is a bit revealing as to the simulation that is being done in a lab, but, this is not the real, they are making it up from substitutes of the real which is from comets and metereorites and returned particles from outer space.So, the aliens are not life size, they are particles that are being mimicked to make Artificial Life.
The real stuff is in outer space. And they have no idea how it is formed. I bet!Comes right out of their own mouths.
I knew NASA was involved. My old friend London agreed.
astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/roadmap/index.html
They are called PAHs and are being made from kerogen which is from oil deposits in shale.
I will explain this a little more, but do believe this material is in th buckyballs that are in the aerosol operations. They have capacity to carry charges.
They did this in stages.......
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Post by skyship on Sept 29, 2009 21:36:07 GMT -5
More excerpts:
....."Interdisciplinary research is needed that combines molecular biology, ecology, planetary science, astronomy, information science, space exploration technologies, and related disciplines. The broad interdisciplinary character of astrobiology compels us to strive for the most comprehensive and inclusive understanding of biological, planetary and cosmic phenomena.
This NASA Astrobiology Roadmap outlines these multiple pathways for research and exploration and indicates how they might be prioritized and coordinated. The roadmap embodies the efforts of more than 200 scientists and technologists, including NASA employees, academic scientists whose research is partially funded by NASA grants, and many members of the broader community who have no formal association with NASA. "...............
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Here is where they say they get the originals.
"We must move beyond the circumstances of our own particular origins in order to develop a broader discipline, a "Universal Biology." Although this discipline will benefit from an understanding of the origins and limits of terrestrial life, it also requires that we define the environmental conditions and the chemical structures and reactions that could support life on other habitable planets. These may be very different than what we have learned to expect from the biology of Earth. For example, liquid water is essential for all life on Earth, however, at least under laboratory conditions, certain chemical systems can undergo a form of replication in non-aqueous solvents.
Furthermore, laboratory experiments that involve analogs of the nucleic acids, proteins, sugars, and lipids indicate that the particular molecular structures found in Earth-based life would not be essential in life forms having a genesis independent of life on Earth. The perspectives gained from such research will improve both the search for habitable environments in the Solar System and the recognition of biosignatures within those environments. The invention of translation, the creation of new metabolic pathways, the adaptation of organisms to extreme environments, and the emergence of multi-cellular life forms and other higher order functions, are all constrained by the intrinsic chemistry of the molecules that supported the particular example of life that achieved these innovations. Given this abundance of chemical opportunity, it seems likely that an expanded research effort will lead to novel molecular systems having the combination of properties that we associate with life processes. Such research will help us to understand better the link between molecular evolution and chemistry that is central to astrobiology."
.."Prebiotic chemistry might begin in interstellar clouds. Laboratory simulations have recently demonstrated that key molecules can be synthesized in interstellar ices that are incorporated into nascent solar systems, and astronomical observations and analyses of extraterrestrial materials have shown that many compounds relevant to life processes are also present in meteorites, interplanetary dust particles and comets. It is likely that substantial amounts of such organic material were delivered to the Earth during late accretion, thereby providing organic compounds that could be directly incorporated into early forms of life or serve as a feedstock for further chemical evolution. An important research objective within this goal is to establish sources of prebiotic organic compounds and to understand their history in terms of universal processes that would take place on any newly formed planet. This will require an integrated program of pan-spectral astronomical observations, sample return missions, laboratory studies of extraterrestrial materials, and realistic laboratory simulations of inaccessible cosmic environments."
SIMULATION IS WHAT IS BEING DONE TO MAKE ARTIFICIAL LIFE FORMS HERE ON EARTH.
FROM THE REAL STUFF THAT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE........
I BET SOME OF US HAVE THE REAL STUFF................. YOU THINK?
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Post by skyship on Sept 29, 2009 22:19:39 GMT -5
Crystals from meteorites:outdoors.webshots.com/album/107013921GsPplBZircon crystals:www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070803140904.htmProof of simulation from quess who? Arizona ..Article: Life on Mars ? Meteorite crystals lose credibility Article from: Sunday Gazette-Mail Article date: November 25, 2001 Author: Henry Fountain CopyrightCopyright 2001 Sunday Gazette-Mail. Provided by ProQuest LLC. (Hide copyright information) Full-Text Online Journals Research online. Academic journals & books at Questia Online Library. www.Questia.com/JournalsResearch into the structure of tiny crystals produced by bacteria casts renewed doubt on a claim by NASA scientists that a Martian meteorite shows evidence that life once existed on Mars. The research, led by scientists at Arizona State University, used new computer-aided electron microscope techniques to reveal in more detail than ever the three-dimensional shapes of these crystals, which consist of a mineral called magnetite. The crystals can be produced by inorganic processes or biogenically by living bacteria.In 1996, the NASA group made the tantalizing assertion that magnetite crystals found in the meteorite were similar in size and shape to those produced by one strain of earthly ... " www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-18998732.htmlSo, the simulation is for artificial life, the real stuff cannot be acquired because it resides in the Cosmos, yet, the lie of it coming from outer space, is revealed by the simulation or production in a lab, being called the real.
What a twist, so the sheep will just agree, because, we have not been to outer space, what do we know? Only if you understand the simulation of life in outer space, and those scientists calling what they produce in the lab as the real cosmos material.
Alien in the form of crystals, and those are real around Saturn's moons and other areas. Cosmic dust being simulated as "smart dust".
It was all in the lying plan. My question is, is how do the real crystals get in us from outer space? I think they are directed toward us, and the simulated are fighting them inside of us. Sometimes we feel great, other times we don't. Think of the Cosmic dust as ours, and the power of it, is more powerful than the artificial ones we will not integrate.
Notice all the convergent sciences in this plan.
That would include physics. Dark matter, crystal particles, kerogens, black crystals, substituting for the real cosmic dust particles.
Cosmic dust particles:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_dust Kerogen smart dust:tracks how much carbon is used? I heard this was coming.Smart Dust is particularly attractive because it is small, inexpensively fabricated in mass quantities, could be easily scattered around a given area, and self-assembles into a network so that data collection and coverage are simplified. The primary advantages of these methods are the small size, potentially low cost, and wide coverage of the measurements. The main disadvantage is that the technology is still under development. For more information on MEMS, Smart Dust, and Motes technologies, refer to www.ion-optics.com/. 5.3.4 Animal Detectors Dogs are currently used for scent tracking in search and rescue operations and detection of illicit drugs, bombs, and landmines. Other animals such as insects may be useful for CO2 detection." www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/840984-dTw752/native/840984.pdfHow smart dust is made: www.uhisrc.com/FTB/Smart%20Dust/Smart%20Dust.pdfskyship
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Post by jonsi on Sept 29, 2009 23:29:14 GMT -5
"Micromike" lives in my home town. I have met him several times & he's a cool guy. He claims that his meteor spreads "M" to everyone who comes in contact with the "rock": www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGAwviN9aDg He shows the meteorite later on in this video. He told me he has it locked up in a bank vault now. "M" from outerspace? I don't doubt it! In the white light, ~jonsi ps. The "cerro grande" fire burnt down 50,000 acres and over 300 homes in 2000. That's why this video looks like a moon scape during some parts.
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Post by skyship on Sept 30, 2009 1:53:51 GMT -5
Now we have not touched on PAHs. PAHs from outer space: Remember hydrocarbons are from kerogens. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KerogenNow we are talking PAHs Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons Some say are from outer space, others have used these in to clean up oil spills. yet many of us morgies have had p. aeringinosa, when exposed to the spheres, make a new organism called p. putida. per Grady on LB a while back. Toulene mixes with the p. aering and the PAHs and makes another organism called p. putida which incorporates the PAH right in. Toulene is in nano products. Now, how did the PAHs get there in the first place? If they did not come from outer space. Chemtrails? naww.. so wonder if there is a connection between man made PAHs in Lab to simulate cosmic PAHs, or are they saying these came from space, when the chemtrails seem to be in the way. Or was that hole in ozone created by HAARP, the catalyst to allow the PAHS from space to come in? and then blame it on the petroleum PAHs. since they are so similar. Now, with the chemtrails the real PAHs can't come in, we are given the fake ones. Napthalene seems to work with this. PAH structures: www.astrochem.org/PAHs.JPGskyship
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Post by skyship on Sept 30, 2009 2:02:35 GMT -5
makes one wonder Jonsi, doesn't it? Are they real PAHs in us, what Carl Sagan called Tholins, or other interstellular dust forms from Out there?
great video. Sometimes it is right in front of us.
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Post by skyship on Sept 30, 2009 2:04:18 GMT -5
Incidently it is from the Einstein, Oppenheimer, Teller folks that the buckyball came into use, to clean up the environment, yep the aerosol operations.
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Post by skyship on Sept 30, 2009 14:15:59 GMT -5
Now, compare the first post to what the plan was or is, to this one which proposes that Hydrogen cyanide is in the tholins, (from outer space) and that polymers and oligonucleotides, (venter) and the idea of biosynthesis.
Here they call it HCN polymer, when did the polymer become the tholin?Multifrequency Electron Spin Resonance Detection of Solid-State Organic Free Radicals in HCN Polymer and a Titan Tholinwww.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/153110703769016415Hydrogen cyanide polymers, comets and the origin of lifewww.rsc.org/publishing/journals/FD/article.asp?doi=b516791dErasmus Darwin talked of an "original filament" that is in all life.
Could that original filament be the flagellum, as has been talked about before.
But now, Venter is claiming another type of creation: Artificial life will be created 'within months' as genome experts claim vital breakthrough
By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 1:24 AM on 22nd August 2009
tinyurl.com/kvlkvo www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1208047/ Life-order-Man-organisms-months-say-biologists.html ======================================
and he even mentions the synthetic bacterial genome. So, the whole reason behind the genome was to mimic life, and make a substitute.
that is what biosynthesis is, copying nature, but using inorganics as well.
So, to begin this creation of artificial life, he had to know what the real genome is, and then proceed to alter it, bringing in synthetic life.
by using the characteristics of tholin, which is similar to yep a type of nuclear element, as E. Darwin did to spark life, begin.
So, the beginning of artificial life is from the SIMULATION of the cosmic dust. That is the spark. So by knowing what is in the tholins, and copying them using artificial means, cloning, mimicking, etc. I believe they used the hydrovent (volcanic) bacterias like Archaea to mingle with the kerogens, which are from coal for the hydrogen and cyano mix. So, if the artificial is put in bacteria, then the natural selection begins, in the eyes of those who are synthesizing life on earth.
So, the cyanobacteria as indicated on this forum, is used as well as types of bacteria mixed with this inorganic matter takes form.
Here is where biology, chemistry, geology and physics all converge as in the convergence of which Kurzweil talks of.
So, if we can see the simulated life, as artificial life, not real, is a copy of the real, by integrating chemical reactions, to the particles, by using radio frequencies, microwave and most especially "Light wave". One can create more artificial organisms. These become part of nature.
However, nature will fight back, as we are doing, not integrating this original particle, which most likely can self assemble, using Ancient (Alchemy) elements.
Many of those elements are used in the aerosol operations.
To make it happen on a grand scale.
But, it is done in stages.
It began with the "buckyball"
Now will compare the "buckyball" to the tholins. Next post.
Did find an article on the model made to mimic the tholins. next post.
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Post by skyship on Sept 30, 2009 14:33:18 GMT -5
Artificial fullerene (buckyball) signal:Abstract Laser mass spectrometry is a powerful tool for the sensitive, selective, and spatially resolved analysis of organic compounds in extraterrestrial materials. Using microprobe two-step laser mass spectrometry (μL2MS), we have explored the organic composition of many different exogenous materials, including meteorites, interplanetary dust particles, and interstellar ice analogs, gaining significant insight into the nature of extraterrestrial materials. Recently, we applied μL2MS to analyze the effect of heating caused by hypervelocity particle capture in aerogel, which was used on the NASA Stardust Mission to capture comet particles. We show that this material exhibits complex organic molecules upon sudden heating. Similar pulsed heating of carbonaceous materials is shown to produce an artifactual fullerene signal. We review the use of μL2MS to investigate extraterrestrial materials, and we discuss its recent application to characterize the effect of pulsed heating on samples of interest. " from: Laser mass spectrometric detection of extraterrestrial aromatic molecules: Mini-review and examination of pulsed heating effectswww.pnas.org/content/105/47/18096.full=========================== so, it needs to be heated, so are buckyballs heated by sun, when the aerosol which carries the man made particles (buckyballs) which is supposed to reflect the sun, create the crystals instead? from the forming buckyball, which was originally liquid.?
Just trying to keep the real space dust separate from the fake space dust (smart dust).
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Post by skyship on Sept 30, 2009 14:40:24 GMT -5
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Post by skyship on Sept 30, 2009 14:45:22 GMT -5
Radicals Shake Up Molecules in a Tug o' War July 3, 2008 View a video representing a collision between a molecule of deuterium and a radical hydrogen atom. Until now, it was commonly thought that colliding molecules get the shakes as the result of energy transfer solely from the smashing of the molecules, but some new research adds a second means by which colliding molecules become vibrationally excited--it is being called the "Tug o' War Mechanism." The new experiment, transforming the textbook story, was performed in the lab of Richard Zare, chair of the Department of Chemistry at Stanford University. This work on energy transferring, or inelastic, collisions is featured in the July 3, 2008 issue of the journal Nature. "How energy transfer occurs in molecular collisions is a topic of deep interest to chemists, for energy transfer is often the precursor to chemical transformations," Zare said. "This is the reason why I regard finding a new mechanism for energizing molecules through collisions to be of such potential importance." "The work by Zare and his colleagues shows an interesting and unexpected result," shared Charles Pibel, director of the Physical Chemistry Program at the National Science Foundation (NSF). "The conventional wisdom had been that most collisions between molecules excite vibrational motion through a hard impact, like a piano's hammer striking a string." But instead of molecules impacting and deflecting backwards, the Tug o' War Mechanism stretches the molecule and then releases it, starting the molecule rattling. The effect is "more like a violinist, plucking a string, pizzicato." In the collisions studied by the Zare group, a lone hydrogen atom tugs on one end of a deuterium molecule and lets go, exciting the molecular deuterium into vibration. More generally, the Tug o' War Mechanism comes into play when a certain type of unstable species, a free radical, looms down a path for collision with another molecule. Because free radicals lack a properly balanced shell of electrons, they are more susceptible to the mechanism than other types of atoms or molecules. Sometimes a collision between a free radical and another molecule rips apart chemical bonds and atoms are exchanged amongst the colliding partners--that is, a chemical reaction takes place. However, other times when free radicals approach other molecules, this Tug o' War Mechanism stretches the molecule without breaking the bonds. In this way, free radicals act like renegades attempting to steal atoms from their parent molecule by tugging them away. But if a collision is not at the right angle, the radical might not be able to break the bonds of the molecule. It releases its hold on the nearest atom, or atoms, and then departs. The frustrated, or unsuccessful, chemical reaction nevertheless imparts some energy on the victim of the free radical attack. It is this energy that sets the molecule off dancing with a new vibrational pattern. The research, funded by NSF, was led by Noah T. Goldberg at Stanford University and Stuart J. Greaves at the University of Bristol, U.K., and included Zare, Jianyang Zhang and Daniel J. Miller, all from Stanford University, and Eckart Wrede from the University of Durham, U.K. -NSF- www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=111861skyship
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Post by aqt on Sept 30, 2009 15:09:17 GMT -5
keep pluggin sky
we're getting there
and we will get there
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Post by lilsissy on Sept 30, 2009 23:29:14 GMT -5
Holey shit, I never thought of that. Jen
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